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Re:Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights can... by dabernathy89 on Monday October 11, 2021 @07:07AM (#28826991)
> unless they take something that many consider to be quite dangerous.

Of course, zero pushback on this nonsense idea

Re:Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights can... by logicchains on Monday October 11, 2021 @08:17AM (#28827471)
It's such a nonsense idea that Finland and Sweden recently halted Moderna vaccination for under-30s males due to, in the views of their health authorities, the risks outweighing the benefits? https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/finland-pauses-use-mode...
Re:Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights can... by ceejayoz on Monday October 11, 2021 @12:35PM (#28830153)
> recently halted Moderna vaccination

In favor of Pfizer for that age group. Not in favor of "don't get the vaccine".

Re:Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights can... by downandout on Monday October 11, 2021 @12:01PM (#28829801)
For a healthy person under 35, the odds of dying or having to be hospitalized shortly after receiving the vaccine are slightly higher than the odds of dying from COVID [1]. While the odds of any of these events, including dying from COVID, are low, there are certainly risks. We are faced with only bad choices in this pandemic - take a vaccine that has a high death/hospitalization rate relative to other vaccines, or roll the dice with COVID.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28829574

Re:Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights can... by dabernathy89 on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @11:53AM (#28841258)
I'm sorry, but you just can't rely on VAERS data for a comparison like this. Literally anyone can submit a report to VAERS.
Re:Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights can... by downandout on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @04:48PM (#28844881)
It’s the best data we have on this. The CDC officially denies any causal link between the vaccine and death [1]:

”A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines”

I can find 10 credible news reports of healthy individuals that died within 48 hours of receiving the vaccine in a minute of searching, so we know that the number 0 is complete nonsense.

Since the CDC numbers are comically wrong, we have to go to the next best source. The CDC itself is creating vaccine hesitancy by lying and misrepresenting statistics, which leads people to wonder what else they are lying about. Just the idea that they report adverse reaction rates based on number of doses administered, and not the number of vaccinated people, intentionally cuts the effective incident rate per person in half since two doses are required. That calls into question everything else they do. Nobody cares if it’s the first or second dose that kills or injures them. So the next best source is VAERS.

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/ad...

Re:Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights can... by newsclues on Monday October 11, 2021 @08:08AM (#28827409)
Is it nonsense that the vaccines may be dangerous or that many consider the vaccines to be dangerous?
Re:Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights can... by dabernathy89 on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @11:55AM (#28841289)
The former. But saying it this way is just like the GOP saying that "many people are concerned about election integrity" after they spent months lying to the public that it was a giant fraud.