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Re:The F.S.O. Safer could spill a million barrels of crude a... by Aeolun on Monday October 11, 2021 @04:47AM (#28826194)
My initial feeling around these kinds of things is always ‘Well, park an aircraft carrier there and force them to clean up their act.’ But then I realize that shit like that is exactly what led to the current problems in the first place.
Re:The F.S.O. Safer could spill a million barrels of crude a... by mrweasel on Monday October 11, 2021 @06:32AM (#28826768)
Mine was a little more... relax: Why doesn't some one just go retrieve the oil? I suppose towing the ship away is a little risky, but reloading the oil should be do able.

Just tell the Saudis that while we might not approve of their war in Yemen, they can go get the oil and sell it at regular market price.

Re:The F.S.O. Safer could spill a million barrels of crude a... by Corinthian on Monday October 11, 2021 @08:05AM (#28827396)
You'd be risking an armed response from the Houthis. They have missiles, drones, and heavy munitions. Would only take one of these to get through and we'd be in exactly the kind of situation we're trying to avoid.
Re:The F.S.O. Safer could spill a million barrels of crude a... by callesgg on Monday October 11, 2021 @07:05AM (#28826982)
The article mentions possible mines around the ship.

That said I am curious if anyone would buy the oil if someone went there with a tug boat and fetched the ship.

Re:The F.S.O. Safer could spill a million barrels of crude a... by ssully on Monday October 11, 2021 @10:27AM (#28828685)
I don't think that's an option. The ship has been moored for 34 years, and hasn't been maintained well during that time.
Re:The F.S.O. Safer could spill a million barrels of crude a... by flyinglizard on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:02AM (#28826271)
״Shit like this” has led to the world being the most liberal, prosperous and safe it has ever been.
Re:The F.S.O. Safer could spill a million barrels of crude a... by ajuc on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:43AM (#28826517)
Nah, not really.

The problem with colonial forces installing democracy in 3rd world countries is that eventually they leave, and then all the old problems come back, AND the native liberal and progressive movements are completely compromised as traitors.

ISIS exists because of USA (and other countries - including my own) involvement in the middle east.

Re:The F.S.O. Safer could spill a million barrels of crude a... by flyinglizard on Monday October 11, 2021 @06:23AM (#28826725)
No no no, I'm not for creating democracy, just for enabling it for those who are ready and willing. Houthis are Iranian proxies which need to be dealt with militarily before they create an environmental disaster (this tanker or bombing Aramco facilities in Saudi Arabia or attacking passing tankers will do that). You won't hear me advocating for democracy anywhere in the Middle East.
Re:The F.S.O. Safer could spill a million barrels of crude a... by rob74 on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:17AM (#28826365)
Yeah, at least parts of the world. And referring to "shit like this", some of it (e.g. the Marshall Plan for rebuilding Europe after WW2) has been more successful, but most of it less (e.g. Afghanistan, where the more or less liberal regime which brought some prosperity, although only to a few, collapsed 10 minutes after the US withdrawal, or Iraq, or Vietnam...).
Re:The F.S.O. Safer could spill a million barrels of crude a... by Aeolun on Monday October 11, 2021 @08:56AM (#28827793)
Yeah, my point is that you cannot militarily intervene and think you are done. Hell, even 20 years in Afghanistan wasn’t enough. Staying another 20-40 might have started to make a difference when the old guard starts dying off or grows too old to fight.

Britain was in India for 150 years and it was barely enough.