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Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by jrochkind1 on Sunday October 10, 2021 @09:53PM (#28823792)
If he didn't transmit sensitive information, I don't see how he could be convicted of doing so. Maybe some other lesser charge of some kind? (The idea of prosecuting such a person for fraud is hilarious but seems unlikely).

I'm sure he wouldn't have a security clearance ever again.

Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by pseingatl on Monday October 11, 2021 @03:39AM (#28825806)
Attempt is a crime. So is conspiracy. His wife was in on it.

But there are two questions: how did the FBI find out about it? Was Toebbe targeted by an informant?

Secondly, which country was he offering the secrets to? This makes a big difference. "Enemy" or ally? Maybe he felt sorry for the way France was effed over by AUKUS and wanted to make amends.

Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by pseingatl on Monday October 11, 2021 @04:37AM (#28826123)
Looks like there was no informant. He contacted the French Embassy on his own and after that, the French government cooperated with the FBI.

Prediction: he'll take a plea. In mitigation, France is an ally. Aggravation: these are nuclear secrets. France will not come to his aid, as Israel did for Pollard for many years, unsuccessfully. Fortunately, there was no real harm. 20 years unless he gets a particularly harsh judge. Worst case: 40.

Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by dhx on Monday October 11, 2021 @08:38AM (#28827637)
If he's willing to sell the information to France, France would rightly be concerned that he'd be willing to also sell the information to countries France isn't friendly with.

Even if France didn't care about the information being shared elsewhere, they would still likely care about potentially breaching the classified information treaty they signed with the USA back in 1977[1]. When France received the information, they may have assumed it was a test from the USA to see if France was still upholding their treaty obligations to report unauthorised distribution of US classified information?

[1] https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%201114/v...

Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by jrochkind1 on Monday October 11, 2021 @02:37PM (#28831416)
> This makes a big difference. "Enemy" or ally?

Makes a big difference to what, are you suggesting?

In the law? How does Russia vs France make a difference? we have declared war against neither. Sharing national security secrets with either is a crime in fact.

How it looks in the news and to the social media mob? Sure.

Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by willis936 on Sunday October 10, 2021 @09:57PM (#28823832)
Don't you need standing in order to bring fraud charges? If so, you would have to be admitting that you solicited someone for government secrets, which is very illegal.
Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by caf on Monday October 11, 2021 @02:04AM (#28825235)
The state always has standing to prosecute crimes, regardless of whether the victim wants them to or not.
Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by jrochkind1 on Sunday October 10, 2021 @09:59PM (#28823843)
I mean, I guess it's not illegal if you were the FBI, which is what happened here? But yes, it seems a stretch.

This sounds increasingly like a Coen brothers movie though, yeah.

Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by perl4ever on Sunday October 10, 2021 @10:39PM (#28824063)
The complaint was filed by FBI Special Agent Justin Van Tromp. That definitely sounds like a character in a Coen brothers movie.

Something I've always wondered is, why are they all special agents? Is there some place they put all the ordinary agents? Are they the ones that just spend their whole careers in cubicles?

Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by dragonwriter on Sunday October 10, 2021 @10:43PM (#28824078)
> Something I've always wondered is, why are they all special agents?

Because that's the job title?

> Is there some place they put all the ordinary agents?

Training. That is, the lowest rank on the FBI agent career path is apparently “New Agent Trainee” and the next step up is “Special Agent”.

Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by pseingatl on Monday October 11, 2021 @04:38AM (#28826133)
FBI, DEA, ATF, Secret Service: they are all "special agents."
Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by perl4ever on Sunday October 10, 2021 @11:21PM (#28824297)
Ok, moving on...you know what the French call (or called) their nuclear deterrent? "Force de Frappe"!
Re:Maryland nuclear engineer and spouse arrested on espionag... by jrochkind1 on Monday October 11, 2021 @07:51AM (#28827291)
In Lake Wobegon FBI, all the agents are special.