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Re:Why didn’t auto-braking stop these crashes? by shiftpgdn on Thursday October 07, 2021 @04:57PM (#28791965)
It always bugs me they trot out the Mountain View crash as an example where a Model X struck an unmarked and unprotected jersey barrier end in what visually looks like a traffic lane. Further that multiple human drivers had hit the divider in the same spot and a near fatal accident occurred literally the next day into the same barrier.

If I put a brick wall on the freeway and paint it to look like a tunnel ala wil-e-coyote am I responsible for building the wall or is the driver responsible for hitting it?

Re:Why didn’t auto-braking stop these crashes? by ReGenGen on Thursday October 07, 2021 @08:02PM (#28793780)
If it fools .1% of human drivers and 50% of automated Tesla's I'd say is Tesla's fault.
Re:Why didn’t auto-braking stop these crashes? by erulabs on Friday October 08, 2021 @12:13PM (#28800912)
It’s Mountain View California - fully 50% of the cars on the roads are Teslas
Re:Why didn’t auto-braking stop these crashes? by UncleEntity on Thursday October 07, 2021 @09:01PM (#28794383)
The Mountain View crash where the driver reported that specific location to Tesla on multiple occasions and still let the robocar drive full speed into the jersey barrier on autopilot?
Re:Why didn’t auto-braking stop these crashes? by blitzar on Friday October 08, 2021 @03:57AM (#28796785)
It sounds a bit like the 3 foot wide concrete pillar that came out of nowhere and scratched half way down the passenger side of the car recently.
Re:Why didn’t auto-braking stop these crashes? by RattleyCooper on Friday October 08, 2021 @01:56PM (#28802100)
You can blame the driver but if tesla calls their systems "auto-pilot" or "full self-driving" mode then they're creating expectations in people's minds that they aren't going to be kamikaze'd into a concrete wall... When they create these expectations and then people die, something needs to change.
Re:Why didn’t auto-braking stop these crashes? by jjeaff on Friday October 08, 2021 @09:27PM (#28806174)
Even if they didn't call it that, anything that allows drivers to redirect their attention seems dangerous to me. Because it is always going to be hard for a disengaged driver to regain control and evade an accident in the last second.
Re:Why didn’t auto-braking stop these crashes? by willcipriano on Thursday October 07, 2021 @06:30PM (#28792920)
Is this the one you are talking about?

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/30/tesla-autopilot-was-o...

I'd blame a human driver for hitting it in this case.

Re:Why didn’t auto-braking stop these crashes? by fwip on Thursday October 07, 2021 @07:05PM (#28793277)
Were any of the person-driven accidents fatal, do you know?