Re:Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covi...
by pyronik19 on Thursday October 07, 2021 @05:53PM
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Then the establishment should just be honest about it instead of trying to fear-porn parents into wanting to "protect your kids from the deadly disease".... Just say.... we are going to put your kids at risk from the vaccine because we think the ends justify the benefits for old people.
Re:Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covi...
by throwaway0a5e on Friday October 08, 2021 @06:29AM
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They can't do that because they stupidly backed themselves into a corner with 20+yr of "think of the children" rhetoric to justify all sorts of stupid things so now any risk to the children is not acceptable.
Re:Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covi...
by ceejayoz on Thursday October 07, 2021 @05:57PM
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> instead of trying to fear-porn parents
> we are going to put your kids at risk from the vaccine
A bit on the nose, don't you think?
Re:Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covi...
by AndrewBissell on Thursday October 07, 2021 @08:53PM
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How else should it be stated except "on the nose," given what's at stake?
Re:Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covi...
by ceejayoz on Thursday October 07, 2021 @09:07PM
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It's "a bit on the nose" that someone complaining about fear-porn uses the same post to push fear-porn about the vaccines.
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Re:Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covi...
by ceejayoz on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:11PM
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> To state that children will be put at risk by the vaccines is not "fear porn," it is clearly the case.
To argue that COVID is not a threat to children, but the vaccines are, is an inconsistent position. Children are, statistically, at quite low risk from both.
As a parent, I'm quite comfortable with the idea of my children taking the very very very small risk of a vaccine reaction in order to not go grandparent-less.
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In general, sure, but that's a bit like arguing people should be able to drive drunk because drunks are more likely to survive a car accident.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/odds-favo...
> A retrospective study of nearly 8,000 trauma patients found that seven percent of people who came in sober died of their injuries, while those who were hurt while drunk only died one percent of the time. A positive blood alcohol level seemed to increase the likelihood of survival, even after the researchers took into account the age of the patient and the severity of the injury. Trauma patients who came in to the hospital drunk were discharged sooner, too.
The impact on others can be significant, and important.