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Re:Norway to hit 100% electric vehicle sales by early next year by plantain on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @07:26PM (#28779783)
Taxes are a form of punishment, they're a tool to discourage certain behaviours relative to others.

Whether roads are funded by road taxes or primary school fees doesn't matter - if we want to promote a behaviour we subsidize it; if we want to discourage it, we tax it.

Whether and how the books balance in the background isn't relevant.

Re:Norway to hit 100% electric vehicle sales by early next year by adrianN on Thursday October 07, 2021 @12:41AM (#28782018)
Technically we want to punish people for driving a car. Electrics are of course better than ICEs, but they're still a lot worse that cycling or taking a train. It would of course be nice if the infrastructure wasn't optimized for cars...
Re:Norway to hit 100% electric vehicle sales by early next year by fspeech on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @07:50PM (#28779959)
I don't think income tax is there to punish you for having income: even with the tax higher pre-tax income results in higher after-tax income. But even if road usage linked fees were a punishment, it is against car ownership in general, which seems fair to me. The relative incentive of electric over gas is still there.
Re:Norway to hit 100% electric vehicle sales by early next year by oh_sigh on Thursday October 07, 2021 @12:16AM (#28781811)
That's a simplistic view of one type of tax. If everyone in a community wants the city government to build a recreation center, and then government levies a tax on the citizens to pay for building/operating the center, are they being punished?
Re:Norway to hit 100% electric vehicle sales by early next year by dougmwne on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @08:23PM (#28780193)
Punishment is really incorrect. Taxes are a form of incentive. It is a behavioral nudge, not a flogging.
Re:Norway to hit 100% electric vehicle sales by early next year by LadyCailin on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @07:45PM (#28779918)
Oh my god, no they aren’t. Taxes are a tool for society to function. They can be used to discourage things, sure, but they are not a punishment in most cases. Do you consider paying for your meal at a restaurant a punishment? Give me a break.
Re:Norway to hit 100% electric vehicle sales by early next year by Nasrudith on Thursday October 07, 2021 @09:19AM (#28785840)
Then why are you not charged for napkins at a resturant? Regardless of need how the fees and taxes are distributed does lead to an effective discouragement - which is synonymous with punishment. It doesn't need an authority to impose them. The punishment for not unzipping your fly when peeing at a urinal is peeing your pants.
Re:Norway to hit 100% electric vehicle sales by early next year by fakedang on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @07:52PM (#28779975)
A tax on electric vehicles isn't necessary for society to function. It's just a medium for adding money to what is already more graft. So yes, it is effectively a tool to direct certain behaviors. As are all VAT and luxury taxes.

Income taxes are the major part of the income that society needs to function. The rest of the lot are just punitive ones, like estate and wealth taxes.