Re:Ask HN: Why are relational DBs are the standard instead o...
by kitd on Sunday October 03, 2021 @03:33PM
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You would think the CS discipline, of all disciplines, would be able to expose its history in an easily searchable format.
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Re:Ask HN: Why are relational DBs are the standard instead o...
by lazide on Sunday October 03, 2021 @04:24PM
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Cobblers children tend to go without shoes maybe?
I suspect some of it is just the joy of solving (or trying to solve the problem) means the unsexy work of digging through hundreds or thousands of old papers gets forgotten.
And looking at things with a fresh view (which isn’t going to happen after looking at all those old papers) does have value.
Re:Ask HN: Why are relational DBs are the standard instead o...
by gnufx on Sunday October 03, 2021 @06:45PM
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I find the freshest view is typically in the foundational papers (not necessarily in computer science, but generally). Always go back and look.
Re:Ask HN: Why are relational DBs are the standard instead o...
by Jugurtha on Monday October 04, 2021 @10:44PM
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Please allow me a snarky comment: Coddler's children.
Re:Ask HN: Why are relational DBs are the standard instead o...
by amw-zero on Sunday October 03, 2021 @07:43PM
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Such a format would not matter, because most programmers are anti-research, anti-math, and anti anything other than shipping Agile software.
Re:Ask HN: Why are relational DBs are the standard instead o...
by rswail on Monday October 04, 2021 @12:38AM
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Programmers are not computer scientists any more than civil engineers are material researchers.
Software "engineering" isn't. It's all about processes and very little about standardization of process and verification of outcomes.
Re:Ask HN: Why are relational DBs are the standard instead o...
by amw-zero on Monday October 04, 2021 @01:44AM
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Found one in the wild.
Re:Ask HN: Why are relational DBs are the standard instead o...
by Jugurtha on Monday October 04, 2021 @10:42PM
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Ironically, if there were a database that would allow querying for this type of things... What's the State of the Art on X ? Where are we on Y ? Has the problem in paper Z been solved ?
Re:Ask HN: Why are relational DBs are the standard instead o...
by gnufx on Sunday October 03, 2021 @06:59PM
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I think in a lot of cases, it's partly a question of where the material was (on paper, not necessarily in libraries, possibly at obscure conferences). That's the case for a various things I'd like to refer to, and the system I used for physics research was never written up anyway.
In this context and example is information on Logica's RAPPORT, allegedly the first commercial, portable RDB, which had some significance in UK research support.