One of those "idiots" clogging the hospitals is my friend's mom. Daughter asked her to get the vaccine. An apparently healthy and not a very old woman ended up in the hospital with ventricular thrombosis three days after the first shot.

The “idiots” comment refers to people who did not get the vaccine and are hospitalized with Covid. So not your friend’s mom.

Why do you think an anecdote where you don't even know all the details matters?

At least you didn't accuse me of lying right away. I'll give it another 10 minutes.

Why accuse you of lying when we can point out that anecdotes should carry nearly zero weight in comparison to statistics?

That's the funny thing about statistics. Once you are the unlucky 0.001%, you won't be thinking about it.

That's the funny thing about statistics. They say you're more likely to get unlucky due to covid than due to a covid vaccine.

For the same reason the body positive types don't, people who drink or smoke etc. Society in general tolerates ones bad decisions.

Hey Robert, I see you’re in New York City. Would you be comfortable explaining your comments to the 2/3 of black New Yorkers who are hesitant to get the vaccines?

>Hey Robert, I see you’re in New York City. Would you be comfortable explaining your comments to the 2/3 of black New Yorkers who are hesitant to get the vaccines?

Your tone is both unwelcome and doesn't add to the discussion. And "2/3" isn't even close to being right[0].

Which makes me stretch hard to find good faith in your musings.

[0] https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-vaccines.p...

Are you comfortable explaining why black Americans are overwhelmingly stuck with worse schools, worse access to healthcare, and generational poverty?

Lack of parenting.

A very very American thing of you to say.

Today I remembered why I shouldn’t engage with idiots.