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Re:San Francisco raises Tesla 'self-driving' safety concerns... by moffkalast on Sunday September 26, 2021 @09:31AM (#28660749)
Yeah, besides Tesla has been collecting data for like a decade now, I'm sure they have enough of it to make a robust enough system for the US at large, especially with their Dojo training chip.

At the end of the day it just needs to be better than the average human, and that's frankly not the highest bar unfortunately.

Re:San Francisco raises Tesla 'self-driving' safety concerns... by bumby on Sunday September 26, 2021 @07:17PM (#28665520)
>At the end of the day it just needs to be better than the average human

This comes up a lot on techno-centric forums like HN but I think it misses an important point. It’s not necessarily if it performs better than the average human that will lead to policy that allows it on roads. It has to have a high degree of trust in the public’s eye. That bar is likely much higher than “just better than the average human.”

Re:San Francisco raises Tesla 'self-driving' safety concerns... by darepublic on Sunday September 26, 2021 @09:36AM (#28660780)
Afaik the full self driving is not better than the average human, not even close. The reason for the lack of accidents are the human drivers intervening when the system suddenly behaves irrationally, which is often. But if the FSD was left entirely to its own devices there would be a huge uptick in everything ranging from fender benders and fatal collisions.
Re:San Francisco raises Tesla 'self-driving' safety concerns... by ajross on Sunday September 26, 2021 @09:49AM (#28660871)
That's a strawman though. The argument upthread and in the linked article is that the supervised FSD Beta is presumptively unsafe.

Arguing that full autonomy isn't possible yet (duh, I mean, it says "beta" right there in the name) isn't an argument to disallow testing.