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Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by pstrateman on Thursday September 23, 2021 @03:55PM (#28634412)
Yeah except he's right, the vast majority of cheaters can be detected server side.

Literally no game does this, because ?????

Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by schmorptron on Thursday September 23, 2021 @04:54PM (#28635230)
Battlefield has been doing this, with FairFight, and it's worked okay-ish, but insanely slow
Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by nightowl_games on Thursday September 23, 2021 @04:00PM (#28634489)
Sounds like a startup opportunity. Lookin' forward to the pitch deck!
Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by TillE on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:03PM (#28635344)
What kind of massive startup ROI are you expecting to make from a highly niche bit of middleware?

Just because something is possible doesn't make it profitable.

Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by pstrateman on Thursday September 23, 2021 @08:04PM (#28637134)
Worse the game publishers make more money from cheaters than from legit players.

Cheaters have to keep re-buying the game when they get banned.

The incentives are for publishers to ban cheaters... but not too fast... and that's exactly what we see happening in practice.

Kinda interesting huh

Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by esyir on Friday September 24, 2021 @07:09AM (#28640858)
I doubt it. Especially since the games where cheaters are most rampant are f2p.
Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by fletchowns on Friday September 24, 2021 @02:32AM (#28639252)
Video game industry is massive, and cheating is rampant and ruining peoples experience in game. I don't think it's the craziest idea
Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by erk__ on Thursday September 23, 2021 @04:09PM (#28634597)
Valve have been doing it with Counter Strike for at least 3 years. And the "VACnet" they have is still far from perfect. Especially with the less obvious cheats. They used to be a talk on youtube, but it seems to have been taken down.
Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by judge2020 on Thursday September 23, 2021 @04:42PM (#28635065)
`\dkliksphilip` reuploaded the talk it seems: https://youtu.be/SnRgW54EWwA
Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by Tom4hawk on Friday September 24, 2021 @09:11AM (#28641818)
I did a few hundred cs overwatch (it's a system where people with 150+ won matches can review suspicious behaviours reported by system/other users - https://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/overwatch/) cases and 95% of them were people using Spinbots. You can write a program/script that parses demos and detects those in few hours (assuming you don't know how to parse a demo file). Why is this even a thing? I want to help them with fighting less than obvious cheaters but if almost everything I get can be automated by any 1st-year cs college student then what is the point?
Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by mrmuagi on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:31PM (#28635753)
I am guessing extra computation? Maybe this sort of technology is in infancy?

The real interesting take away is it is always a mouse and cat game. The hackers will adapt, instead of reading memory they might just read packets, or use a m.2 memory reader card, because they have to -- and so will the anti-hackers. I am interesting in machine learning to simulate COD -- I saw a video of it and it's like a young child was playing the game -- not good but obviously on the path to competence.

Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by westpfelia on Thursday September 23, 2021 @04:13PM (#28634638)
They do. And after a few weeks/months there will be a ban wave. But there really isnt incentive to fix these problems because if you ban cheaters they have to buy new copies of games.
Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by jasonladuke0311 on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:51PM (#28636021)
Because they can get people to install rootkits on their PCs and offload the computational burden on to them instead of paying $$$ to detect these themselves?
Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by sudosysgen on Thursday September 23, 2021 @04:04PM (#28634533)
CS:GO does do this.
Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by rodgerd on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:55PM (#28636071)
In one part because the false positives of picking up top players as bots becomes an issue.
Re:Epic launches anti-cheat support for Linux, Mac, and Stea... by tester756 on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:03PM (#28635356)
"vast majority" means? 60% or 99%?