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Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by josefx on Thursday September 23, 2021 @09:43AM (#28629021)
The problem is that after years of everyone pulling their own shit we finally have USB C. Yet it seems as if a dozen companies still do their best to remain incompatible in various ways.

No one wants USB C as permanent solution but the alternative hasn't worked out.

Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by adrr on Thursday September 23, 2021 @10:12AM (#28629419)
USB C is a huge mess. I have at least 3 types of USB c cables. Standard USB C cables, Cables that can charge my MacBook Pro, and cables that can hook my pro to a dock. I understand the differences but try explaining the differences to your parents.
Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by dmitriid on Thursday September 23, 2021 @10:35AM (#28629743)
Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by easton on Thursday September 23, 2021 @11:09AM (#28630285)
Not soon, now. My MacBook was advertised as being USB4 compliant, since Apple probably feels funny about using the trademarked "Thunderbolt" name now that they don't have Intel chips in their hardware.

USB 4 is mostly Thunderbolt 3 but without Intel determining whether you can use the name. (There's some differences, but most devices seem to use them interchangeably).

Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by dmitriid on Thursday September 23, 2021 @11:17AM (#28630405)
> USB 4 is mostly Thunderbolt 3

The second link shows exactly how USB 4 is not Thunderbolt, and why Apple can't use Thunderbolt with the new Macs.

Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by dragonwriter on Thursday September 23, 2021 @10:25AM (#28629599)
> but try explaining the differences to your parents.

Wheh my Boomer parents first got computers as adults, the number of radically different cables with the same connectors (especially DB9 or DB25) on the end was dizzying, as well as the set of different connectors, and remembering what each was for (or attaching tape and labelling whatever wasn’t the most common function with the same combination of connectors) was the norm. That's also been true (though the set of common connectors has evolved) for most Gen-X and early “Oregon Trail generation” Millenials.

“Almost every cable is USB A to USB micro-B and fully interchangeable” was such a narrow slice of time that it's really only going to dominate your parents experience if they were late Millenials or early Gen-Z.

Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by luma on Thursday September 23, 2021 @02:54PM (#28633560)
It was far worse with phone chargers before the EU mandated USB, nearly every manufacturer had several different designs across their product lineup, none of which were compatible with each other.
Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by grepfru_it on Thursday September 23, 2021 @09:57AM (#28629217)
Because the usb-c spec had too much wiggle room. The bad apples will be fleshed out just like they were when usb 1.0 came out. I credit the MacBook and androids for going all usb-c to jumpstart that initiative