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Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by easton on Monday September 20, 2021 @10:38PM (#28601505)
It’ll be interesting if Cloudflare or someone else can release numbers on how many hits they’re getting from Private Relay. I’ve always been curious how many people pay the $2 per month for iCloud.
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by whalesalad on Monday September 20, 2021 @10:44PM (#28601544)
iCloud backup alone is worth it. If you have nightly backups and lose your phone you can just buy a new one and restore.
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by sitzkrieg on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @12:35AM (#28602078)
and give law enforcement full access to unencrypted messages woohoo!
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by blitzar on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:52AM (#28602905)
And if you dont use icloud backup the judge is going to deny the prosecution access to your devices?
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by GekkePrutser on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:54AM (#28602915)
No, but they will have an awful time trying to get into them of course.
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by watermelon0 on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @01:53AM (#28602365)
So it's basically the same as other commonly used messaging services such as email, Facebook Messenger, and Telegram (outside of Secret Chats)?
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by doomrobo on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @06:28AM (#28603627)
FB Messenger and WhatsApp are end-to-end encrypted by default
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by kevincox on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @01:44PM (#28607561)
I'm quite sure that FB Messenger is not. They do have an option for secret chats but it is not the default and quite awkward to use (1 device and only mobile last time I used it)
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by postpawl on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @01:54AM (#28602372)
You can choose whether or not to back up messages.
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by javagram on Monday September 20, 2021 @11:10PM (#28601716)
FWIW, I’ve paid for iCloud for years, no intention to turn the private relay on. That said, if Apple defaults it to on then probably 95% or more of users will leave it enabled.
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by ekam on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @10:48AM (#28605576)
Why not turn it on?
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by javagram on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @10:57AM (#28605656)
Don’t feel like sending traffic through Apple or having a potential speed slowdown or technical issue by adding more hops to my requests. I don’t care about my own privacy or about government surveillance of myself.
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by brokenmachine on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @10:19PM (#28612471)
>I don’t care about my own privacy or about government surveillance of myself.

Please post your phone number, bank account name/PIN and home address.

I need them for... reasons.

Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by javagram on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @01:45PM (#28619387)
Haha :-) My home address has been listed in WHOIS for years and it’s never been a problem for me, I give my phone number out to any company that interacts with me and asks for it. When I grew up we always got paper phone books and you could look up anyone’s number, it wasn’t a problem.

Bank account PIN… That actually needs to be secure, but it goes over HTTPS, I don’t need a VPN on top of it. If the Govt wants the cash in my bank they’ll just tell the bank and take it all, without my PIN anyway.

Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by ec109685 on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @02:03AM (#28602402)
I don’t see my IP address changing that fast using various what’s my ip services.

It did change when I toggled back and forth between the two IP location settings.

Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by hnrj95 on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @09:08AM (#28604661)
is it supposed to safeguard against dns leaks? in my cursory tests, it looks like it doesn’t
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by jsudi on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:34AM (#28602830)
Just another reason most websites are going to stick to ipv4.
Re:Apple's private relay service does not sit still by foobar33333 on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @07:25AM (#28603943)
Is it any better for site tracking to have 1000 users show as the same v4 address or have 1000 users jump around the same v6b block?