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Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by lend000 on Saturday September 18, 2021 @03:31PM (#28578608)
With DDoS the problem is that botnets come from a bunch of random devices that were compromised (for example, your un-updated smart TV or old router could be contributing to the DDoS without your knowledge.)

With spam calls, ransomware, and most other forms of cybercrime, the problem is that Russia/China and many 3rd world countries don't extradite/cooperate or have the resources to work with international authorities.

I sometimes wonder how much safer the internet would be if China and Russia were cut off. Wouldn't be so great for the already poor state of liberty in either country, but the rest of the world would certainly benefit.

Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by spenczar5 on Saturday September 18, 2021 @03:37PM (#28578651)
It's true that they often use botnets, but amplification attacks are more and more common, and an important component here.

In these, the attacker sends crafted requests to an unwitting third party, and that third party then floods the victim with traffic. DNS amplification is probably the best known, here, since DNS is (usually) over UDP which has no persistent connection for replies:

- Send a DNS query to a DNS server, using your victim's IP address as the "source IP" for the query. Make the query something with a huge response, like using "ANY".

- DNS server responds to the victim's IP address, sending many big UDP packets with the response. After all, it can't know any better - it must* just trust the claimed source IP!

- Victim gets a huge flood of UDP traffic, overwhelming IP-level infrastructure like routers and switches.

This lets a relatively small attacker multiply ("amplify") their impact - and they do it while traversing a third party, making them more hidden.

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* If course, there actually are mitigations for this; it's possible to detect this spoofing. But this is how DNS operators have worked in the past.

Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by jansimonek on Saturday September 18, 2021 @03:54PM (#28578779)
"without your knowledge"... is there a way to check if my IP was participating in the DDoS? If they are filtering the traffic, they might be able to create a list of IPs that I can check. Or perhaps, an IP can be associated with a contact info so the if any of my devices would be infected and participate in DDoS, I would get notified by the victim and could take action.
Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by ChuckNorris89 on Saturday September 18, 2021 @03:35PM (#28578634)
>Wouldn't be so great for the already poor state of liberty in either country, but the rest of the world would certainly benefit.

That's a pretty closed minded way of looking at things.

Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by google234123 on Saturday September 18, 2021 @08:05PM (#28580500)
They are already doing it themselves...
Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by lend000 on Sunday September 19, 2021 @02:44AM (#28582213)
How so? To me, closed-mindedness is shooting down an idea without a reason or alternative.
Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by NicoJuicy on Saturday September 18, 2021 @04:55PM (#28579222)
That's the reason why my nextdns blocks all .ru and .ch domains.

I don't trust them + i don't speak the language. So entirely blocking it is an easy decision.

Nextdns on my router blocks generated domains, which could be used against c&c servers.

Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by forty on Saturday September 18, 2021 @05:44PM (#28579612)
.ch is Swiss TLD ;)
Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by NicoJuicy on Saturday September 18, 2021 @07:41PM (#28580360)
Oh yeah, indeed. Verified it, it was .cn that is blocked ;)

Thanks for reminding me

Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by Andrew_nenakhov on Saturday September 18, 2021 @03:35PM (#28578640)
Cutting off countries will do very little. Compromised devices are spread evenly across the globe, and even if their puppeteers sit in China or Russia, you wouldn't be able to block them from issuing orders to botnets.
Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by edflsafoiewq on Saturday September 18, 2021 @06:00PM (#28579739)
> the rest of the world would certainly benefit

OTOH most pirate library sites are hosted in those countries for the same reason.