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Re:Greek Delivery Giant Efood Faces Major Backlash over Work... by whatever1 on Saturday September 18, 2021 @03:47AM (#28574460)
Online food delivery platforms in Greece will follow the same course as their global counterparts (Uber eats, Grubhub, Doordash). Slow death. Now they try to reduce their labor costs by stretching the limits of the law, so that they survive a little longer.

This was never a profitable business model. I don't understand how so many VC's fell for a supply chain concept that a first year Operations Research student would had figured out that is so inefficient that is not worth pursuing.

Edit: Except if their goal was to become a monopoly and then charge whatever they want for deliveries.

Re:Greek Delivery Giant Efood Faces Major Backlash over Work... by sideway on Saturday September 18, 2021 @04:00AM (#28574496)
> Now they try to reduce their labor costs by stretching the limits of the law

Why would you say they are stretching the limits of the law? My understanding is that they had no obligation to renew those 3-month contracts.

> Except if their goal was to become a monopoly and then charge whatever they want for deliveries.

Even if that's the case (highly probable), it would still be a huge improvement compared to the pre-efood era when lots of delivery riders would not be paid on time, work (illegally) with no insurance/pension, sometimes even get humiliated by terrible bosses.

Re:Greek Delivery Giant Efood Faces Major Backlash over Work... by whatever1 on Saturday September 18, 2021 @04:15AM (#28574552)

    "Why would you say they are stretching the limits of the law? My understanding is that they had no obligation to renew those 3-month contracts."
Because these 3-month contracts were renewed for years, and in fact, there are many employees who were employed for over 3 years, continuously, by the company. That makes the non-renewal -> layoff.

    "Even if that's the case (highly probable), it would still be a huge improvement compared to the pre-efood era when lots of delivery riders would not be paid on time, work (illegally) with no insurance/pension, sometimes even get humiliated by terrible bosses."
Food delivery platforms are not in the business of providing cash and benefits to drivers. They are in the business of making money. But apparently, they cannot do either.
Re:Greek Delivery Giant Efood Faces Major Backlash over Work... by siva7 on Saturday September 18, 2021 @04:39AM (#28574650)
That's why these labour protection laws exists, to remind those companies even if they think they are not responsible of providing benefits to the drivers that they actually are.
Re:Greek Delivery Giant Efood Faces Major Backlash over Work... by wiz21c on Saturday September 18, 2021 @06:59AM (#28575189)
A 3-months contract is not better than non contract at all in the sense that is way tooo short to be able to stabilize your work around it. 3 months contract basically means you'll be as bad as before except that the employer doesn't need to go the illegal route to use the worker (and the employment statistics are better).
Re:Greek Delivery Giant Efood Faces Major Backlash over Work... by irtigor on Saturday September 18, 2021 @02:06PM (#28578086)
Based on what I've read it is more or less the same model we have in my country. Employment contracts are either fixed or indefinite term contracts, you can't renew fixed term contracts indefinitely and they are used in specific situations, one of them being to assess or test someone's abilities before offering an indefinite term contract, so 3 months is a short term but not really in the sense that your new employee doesn't necessarily needs to master the job in 3 months, you just need believe or see that they are learning and being as good as other hires in that amount of time.
Re:Greek Delivery Giant Efood Faces Major Backlash over Work... by Ekaros on Saturday September 18, 2021 @04:34AM (#28574625)
In Finland, I always felt that whole thing peaked in making sense with our original platform pizza-online.fi Where it didn't even have own delivery, but aggregator and payment processor. And doing that at reasonable rates. Ofc, it got acquired by VC money and exploitation went up...
Re:Greek Delivery Giant Efood Faces Major Backlash over Work... by luckylion on Saturday September 18, 2021 @05:51AM (#28574948)
> I don't understand how so many VC's fell for a supply chain concept that a first year Operations Research student would had figured out that is so inefficient that is not worth pursuing.

Why not? From my understanding, individual restaurants were doing it for a long time with less efficiency (orders via telephone, staff would be idle when no orders are around and can't do orders for another restaurant during those times). Why wouldn't it be profitable to make that process more efficient?

Re:Greek Delivery Giant Efood Faces Major Backlash over Work... by project2501a on Saturday September 18, 2021 @07:13AM (#28575246)
> VC's fell for a supply chain concept that a first year Operations Research student would had figured out that is so inefficient that is not worth pursuing.

there is the "capitalist" part in VC