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Re:Apple shareholder resolution calls for company to support... by tonyedgecombe on Friday September 17, 2021 @06:50AM (#28563758)
It's not at the top of my list of priorities. What I want is reliability and security updates for a long time. If a bit more glue means the phone is less likely to break when I drop it or if it gets wet then I'm happy with that.
Re:Apple shareholder resolution calls for company to support... by simion314 on Friday September 17, 2021 @07:10AM (#28563923)
You were FUD-ed, right to repair is not about making things less thin and not water proof.

Making the same software and documentation Apple partners use available to all does not make your phone less sexy.

Making it possible to recycle say a screen from a device and put it into other device, those reducing waste will also not make your phone less sexy.

Allowing me the choice to replace a battery at an Apple approved store or let a random dude do it for me it will not make your phone less sexy.

The part about filling the device with glue is debatable, is it done for the user benefit or is done to prevent repair or done to gain 2 cents. If is done malicious to fuck the user then I think they should stop.

And I mean this in general, including washing machine, consoles and other devices, there is always a very cheap part that breaks, that could have been made stronger with a few cents more of materials and for some reason each year you get a new model of the thing with a redesign so the parts will never fit.

Re:Apple shareholder resolution calls for company to support... by jdavis703 on Friday September 17, 2021 @07:18AM (#28564006)
I don’t think this is just FUD. Many people on this site actually want a thicker iPhone with a replaceable battery. But you are correct, right to repair does not have to mean easy to repair.
Re:Apple shareholder resolution calls for company to support... by p1necone on Saturday September 18, 2021 @01:31AM (#28573911)
Right to repair has nothing to do with making devices thick or thin or waterproof or not waterproof. It's about manufacturers making schematics and spare parts available to consumers and third party repair shops, not voiding warranties when said third party repairs are performed and not arbitrarily DRMing parts so that they cannot be replaced.
Re:Apple shareholder resolution calls for company to support... by simion314 on Friday September 17, 2021 @10:07AM (#28565645)
It is normal that many people would sacrifice 1-5 mm of thikness for more battery and the ability to replace the battery... but this is not about preventing people to repair their phones, just that people hate to charge their phone daily and always keeping on eye on the battery.
Re:Apple shareholder resolution calls for company to support... by tonyedgecombe on Friday September 17, 2021 @08:27AM (#28564646)
>You were FUD-ed, right to repair is not about making things less thin and not water proof.

There clearly is a trade off.

The rest of your complaints are just about commercial concerns, they have nothing to do with the environmental impact of these devices.

Re:Apple shareholder resolution calls for company to support... by simion314 on Friday September 17, 2021 @10:10AM (#28565680)
>The rest of your complaints are just about commercial concerns, they have nothing to do with the environmental impact of these devices.

How the fuck don't have an impact if

1 Apple approved repairs cost more and Apple "encourages" you to buy a new device

2 most people don't have an Apple store near by, so it makes it even more expensive and time consuming to get your device fixed.

From 1 and 2 results Apple approved repairs are more expensive and time consuming where it results (obviously) with less repair happening results more e-waste.

Re:Apple shareholder resolution calls for company to support... by p1necone on Saturday September 18, 2021 @01:34AM (#28573920)
There is no tradeoff. Apple providing the same schematics and spare parts that they already use internally to third party repairers and consumers is not going to magically make their products thicker or heavier. And I fail to see how any of this would have a negative environmental impact.
Re:Apple shareholder resolution calls for company to support... by tonyedgecombe on Saturday September 18, 2021 @05:29AM (#28574846)
That's a commercial concern, it has nothing to do with the environmental impact.
Re:Apple shareholder resolution calls for company to support... by simion314 on Saturday September 18, 2021 @03:11PM (#28578472)
Commercial? Like people might not buy a new device and instead fix it? This could be at the same time an environment issue too, what is better for Apple is bad for users and environment