Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e...
by seniorivn on Friday September 17, 2021 @05:21AM
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it is possible, but it's also true that telegram bot is the only platform of Navalny smart vote service that keeps working(aside text file circulating all over the internet)
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Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e...
by Andrew_nenakhov on Friday September 17, 2021 @05:46AM
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I wonder why all modern hipsters ignore email as a platform. Like, Telegram on behest of Apple and Google repeatedly bans flibusta bots (a site with a great collection of pirated books), why don't they make an email bot? What would Apple do, ban their own mail app? Start censoring emails?
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e...
by iaml on Friday September 17, 2021 @06:27AM
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Votesmart started out with mailing lists. Then somehow lists got leaked, and some of the people who subscribed using the same mail they used in government services got visited by police. You also need phone number to register in most emails btw, and the legal requirement for having a sim card is to register it to your passport.
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e...
by machomaster on Friday September 17, 2021 @06:47AM
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0. Well, it is being done when possible. But it's not a 100% way of reaching people.
1. State terrorism. People are genuinely afraid to give their email addresses, and for a good reason.
2. Email delivery. Email doesn't work as good as you think. In addition to the typical technical email delivery problems, there are also specific to Russia. Many people are using local Russian email services. But those have shown to be dependent on Kremlin. For example Smart Voting lists had "strange" delivery problems for recipient in the mail.ru service (one of the most popular in Russia).
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e...
by Andrew_nenakhov on Friday September 17, 2021 @09:40AM
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0. if you send an email with a command, 99% of mail services will not spam-filter the reply to it
1. Spare emails, like, lots of them
2. Users of mail.ru and such are their own worst enemy, and it's not like getting gmail address is particularly difficult
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e...
by Nemerie on Friday September 17, 2021 @02:27PM
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> and it's not like getting gmail address is particularly difficult
Last time I checked I couldn't create a new gmail account without a new phone number.
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e...
by Andrew_nenakhov on Friday September 17, 2021 @03:17PM
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For Russians, Gmail accounts aren't filtered on the orders of censorship agencies. It's only national mail services like mail.ru that belong to Putin's oligarchs that do such things
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e...
by Omavel on Friday September 17, 2021 @06:13AM
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Many disadvantages comparing with realtime messaging
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e...
by Andrew_nenakhov on Friday September 17, 2021 @06:24AM
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For a service delivering a file or a list of names? Compared to a blocked and non-functioning bot?
Anyway, emails these days are nearly instantaneous too, not that much slower than, say, WhatsApp