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Re:Genius Sells to Media Lab for $80M by dzonga on Thursday September 16, 2021 @08:28AM (#28550855)
Genius is really useful no doubt. but it's one of those companies that shouldn't have taken vc funding. maybe PE funds / debt financing yeah, every now and then to keep it stable. but once again the employees pay the cost.
Re:Genius Sells to Media Lab for $80M by lotsofpulp on Thursday September 16, 2021 @10:12AM (#28552049)
> Genius is really useful no doubt.

I imagine only a tiny portion of people care about what lyrics mean. I can play a song in Apple Music and it shows me the lyrics, as I am sure the other streaming services do also.

Re:Genius Sells to Media Lab for $80M by Gene_Parmesan on Thursday September 16, 2021 @11:17AM (#28552903)
It was great for rap lyrics - which makes sense because it's a heavily lyric-centric genre. Sometimes the artists themselves would provide annotations, people would provide context for veiled references, etc.

So to me it makes all the sense in the world that they struggled to expand beyond that niche. The idea that the rap lyrics site would expand into annotating speeches or acts of Congress just doesn't scan.

Re:Genius Sells to Media Lab for $80M by tallies on Thursday September 16, 2021 @11:54AM (#28553390)
Yes the value of the site was much more clear when it was primarily a way to demystify references and slang in rap lyrics - in the same vein as Urban Dictionary.

But since then rap lyrics have gotten simpler and the site has expanded. It's interesting to compare early reactions from artists getting their songs annotated to its place in rap today.

"Rap Genius dot com is white devil sophistry" - Kool A.D., 2012

Re:Genius Sells to Media Lab for $80M by yarcob on Thursday September 16, 2021 @10:31AM (#28552310)
Spotify doesn't, and even for Apple Music lyrics are a somewhat recent addition afaik.
Re:Genius Sells to Media Lab for $80M by scrollaway on Thursday September 16, 2021 @11:12AM (#28552815)
Spotify does, though not for all. And… those lyrics come from Genius, so yeah.

Source: https://support.spotify.com/us/article/lyrics/

Re:Genius Sells to Media Lab for $80M by yarcob on Thursday September 16, 2021 @01:46PM (#28554788)
I just tried with 5 songs and I couldn't get lyrics for a single one. It did show some trivia ("Behind the Lyrics") for English songs but not the lyrics themselves. Could it be that they don't actually have the rights to show lyrics?
Re:Genius Sells to Media Lab for $80M by duxup on Thursday September 16, 2021 @08:59AM (#28551136)
>shouldn't have taken vc funding

That was my first thought too. The whole idea seems great, but more as a community project or just smaller slower company. Not sure you can make Genius into something that justifies hoping for massive returns.

Re:Genius Sells to Media Lab for $80M by IggleSniggle on Thursday September 16, 2021 @10:42AM (#28552446)
It's a reinvention of the hyperlink where they own the hyperlink, and if it had gotten enough traction who knows what they could have accomplished. I mean, Facebook was just a reinvention of the blog or webrings where Facebook owns the webring, right? I think it could have worked.
Re:Genius Sells to Media Lab for $80M by pessimizer on Thursday September 16, 2021 @11:16AM (#28552881)
Facebook was just a reinvention of MySpace with was a reinvention of Friendster.
Re:Genius Sells to Media Lab for $80M by redisman on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:58PM (#28558237)
> shouldn't have taken vc funding

Classic case of this would’ve been great if the were fundamentally completely different people. I’d imagine they loved the tens of millions of dollars valuations and easy money and everything they got to do with it.

Re:Genius Sells to Media Lab for $80M by micromacrofoot on Thursday September 16, 2021 @09:21AM (#28551415)
Yeah this is a great example of a company that would have benefited from staying small and playing the long game. There's not a clear path to make money off of annotating song lyrics (or anything) so it seemed in their benefit to stretch out their lifespan instead of burning out chasing fast growth.