Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US?
by dang on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @06:53PM
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Please don't argue in the flamewar style on HN, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. It is exactly what we're trying to avoid here.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US?
by HWR_14 on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @07:10PM
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I'm not arguing with you, but I'm not 100% sure what specifically was wrong. Can I trouble you to provide a little more context? Was it stylistic? I originally wrote up my issues with his source as a paragraph, but that seemed harder to read. Was it the repetitive beginning of each line? Or was I just being too snarky?
Oh, and sorry.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US?
by dang on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @01:12PM
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Yes, too snarky, and that sort of repetition is a rhetorical device that acts as a hammer. It is a device for political battle, not curious conversation. No one speaks that way in a conversation.
The thing about comments like that is that they polarize the discussion even further, because those who agree with you will become intensified in their agreement while those who disagree with you will react the way people react when someone hammers them repeatedly. This kind of polarization makes curious conversation impossible, because curious conversation has to do with maintaining connection across differences.
Good thing children never transmit viruses to adults.
Good thing reservoirs of disease never allow for novel mutations.
Good thing your source[1] didn't do something fundamentally dishonest like compare projections in one case to actual results in the other.
Good thing your source[1] didn't do something fundamentally dishonest like compare one rate in the general population to a rate in an already selected group.
Good thing your source[1] didn't do something fundamentally dishonest like compare self-reported issues to actually verified cases.
Good thing your source[1] didn't make a big deal about the huge multiplier difference between two exceedingly small numbers (0.01622% vs 0.00261%)
Good thing your source[1] didn't falsely imply "hospitalization" and "myocarditis " as equivalently severe, ignoring that the myocarditis responded well and quickly to treatment[2] whereas COVID does not, leading to long hospital stays and/or ventilation and/or death.
[2] https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/my...