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Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by omegalulw on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @03:45PM (#28530021)
I think we should look at one step further - RISC-V. Open source is the best way to ensure consumers don't get shafted by someone doing the Intel model again or Apple keeping M1 limited to their devices.
Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by mhh__ on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @06:41PM (#28532503)
You seem to be making the classic mistake of thinking that a given RISC-V processor is open source. The standard is open, the processor's source "code" (design) doesn't have to be.

This does not mean RISC-V use wouldn't be a good thing, as it prevents a whole boatload of legal issues, but it just isn't what a lot of people seem to think it is.

ARM could end up being a better ISA in the very high-clock high-IPC domain, it remains to be seen.

Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by omegalulw on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @02:09PM (#28542377)
I accept that I should have been more careful in my wording. I intended to comment that having an open source ISA that you could create processors for is a huge step in creating competition.

If someone wants to compete with Intel they would have a hard time even if they make an excellent processor since they are unlikely to get a x86 license. With arm you have to pay licensing fee and control of the Isa is still with a private company.

With risc v you can make your own processor and have a good shot in market. You will also have a chance to have a to propose/comment on future ISA changes.

Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by ksec on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @06:57AM (#28537553)
It is sad to see these sort of misinformation continue to spread like plague. Especially on HN.
Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by nicce on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @05:07PM (#28531235)
Open soure alone is not enough. Look at Chromium, controlled by a single company on what is decided
Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by skohan on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @04:13PM (#28530437)
Well I think it's clear that Apple will keep M1 to themselves. But I would imagine other vendors will come out with Arm offerings to compete.

I agree a truly open-source option would be desirable.