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Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by smcl on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @06:10AM (#28522522)
I loved my blackberry's keyboard, but I adjusted to iOS on-screen keyboard (starting circa the iPhone 4S) pretty well. Last couple of years though iOS autocorrect has started to be extremely aggressive and frequently very wrong (incorrectly changing were->we're, ill->i'll for example. and today changing "Torvalds" to "Torshavn" or something when I was talking about Linus and not the Faroes).

If someone has a nice phone with a physical keyboard I'd seriously consider it when I replace my iPhone

Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by vincentmarle on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @07:11AM (#28522951)
> autocorrect has started to be extremely aggressive and frequently very wrong

First thing I do when setting up a new phone is turning off auto correct and auto capitalization. Yes, I still make mistakes, but I prefer becoming quite handy at using my backspace button than having to fight the auto correct all damn time.

Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by winternett on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @10:42AM (#28525571)
Thank goodness it is not just me noticing that spell check and typing functionality is degrading!

I have also noticed that touch sensitivity has increased and decreased based on which app I am using. I used to never click on ads on Twitter, but now mistake clicks happen frequently (as an example).

I miss the BlackBerry days a lot, security and trustworthiness with the company was paramount as well and now that's all a fond memory... People laughed at the demise of the company's dominance, but I knew way back then that it was a key aspect of reliability that died with the company... sniff

I still have my old 3g Blackberry touch screen model, if things keep going bad I may try to get it reactivated (if that's even possible) and then grow a beard and move up to a log cabin in the mountains. :P

Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by Wowfunhappy on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @07:21PM (#28532872)
> I have also noticed that touch sensitivity has increased and decreased based on which app I am using.

...no way, really?! Could any iOS developers chime in on whether their are actually ways for apps to control this?

Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by guenthert on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @01:00PM (#28527598)
Autocorrect is an awful feature. Humans can easily determine from context which word was meant, if a letter or two are wrong. If autocorrect picks the wrong word, as it all too often does, the meaning is lost. Instead of a lousy typist, you come across as insane.
Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by smcl on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @07:37AM (#28523163)
Yeah for all my complaining, autocorrect is still just about a net benefit but it’s MUCH less than it once was.
Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by rubyfan on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @08:29AM (#28523702)
it’s funny how when it doesn’t work the negative feels is perhaps much stronger than the positive feeling when it works correctly
Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by hulitu on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @08:29AM (#28538204)
Autocorrect always picks the wrong word on android.
Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by eitland on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @09:13AM (#28524234)
SwiftKey is getting buggier but is still a massive step up from the default since it:

- works with more languages

- can be configured to suggest completions and corrections but not auto-apply them

(If anyone from MS/SwiftKey team wonders: these days if I delete a word and start on a new it shows both the original word and the best predictions for the new word. Thankfully it only inserts the new one - but sadly it inserts two spaces.)

And since this is a startup forum, some advice if anyone else reads this:

1. don't skimp on testers. Good testers are extremely valuable.

2. give us users a way to give you feedback! You get a lot of rubbish (I know, I am a dev who sometimes work on products with easily available feedback channels) but without it feedback like this ends up on open forums like here - or we are just silent and mightily annoyed and ready to forgive quite a lot from the next app/keyboard/service that actually fixes the stupid thing your product didn't fix.

Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by starky on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @11:59AM (#28526735)
I don't get how Swiftkey went from being almost perfect to being almost perfectly shit at predicting what I want to say. I've switched to GBoard and also hate it (e.g. it won't auto-capitalize "I" for me), but at least the predictions are usable.
Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by egeozcan on Friday September 17, 2021 @12:05PM (#28567096)
I was wondering if that's a problem isolated to my first language, but apparently it got worse in English as well. Although, it surely can't be as bad in a language that doesn't have agglutination.

For example "olamayacakmış" ("ol-a-me-cek-miş", meaning something like "we found out that it isn't possible to make that happen in the future") was an easy hit before and I could write "olamyckms" and used to get predicted. For some reason not anymore.

Just wanted to share the bug (?) that reduced my mobile typing speed by 30% in a single hit.

Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by milkytron on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @01:35PM (#28528047)
Well... SwiftKey did get bought out by Microsoft, I wonder if that has had any impact.
Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by bgro on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @08:33AM (#28523751)
There appears to be some speculation about something changing on the iOS keyboard / autocorrect, causing it to get worse in the past few years. You're not alone!
Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by Tsarbomb on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @09:48AM (#28524735)
Based on my experience with my iphone, I have a suspicion they've optimised somehow for people having fatter fingers. I've noticed that sometimes the auto correct assumes I mean to press a character next to the one I wanted.
Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by bgro on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @01:24PM (#28527896)
This actually would make a lot of sense.

My previous guess was the original version had spaghetti code (ex: lots of hard coding edge cases), and they tried to move it to a more standardized / maintainable code block that hasn't been fully brought up to speed.

The guess was based on a interview video I saw discussing the various prototypes for the original iphone keyboard.

Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by stevage on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @09:05AM (#28524124)
Meanwhile I think Android's has gotten a lot better.
Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by smcl on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @10:49AM (#28525703)
This is interesting, I used Android briefly around 2011-2012 and found text entry to be quite frustrating so if it's improved I'll need to revisit it.
Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by 5etho on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @06:32AM (#28522662)
there all phone with phycical keyboard, unihertz, even blackberries drop new keybaord phone this year
Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by throwaway744678 on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @07:00AM (#28522848)
I hope you did not type this comment on one of those :]
Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by awinter-py on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @12:43PM (#28527370)
yes all the ML based ones feel like they're consistently adjusting to everyone in the world at once

I can learn to use a consistent kb, but I can't learn a moving target

Re:Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry? by smcl on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @03:37PM (#28529912)
Ahhhhh they added ML to the iOS keyboard input? No wonder it's behaving weirdly