Re:Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be finger...
by TOMDM on Sunday September 12, 2021 @10:25PM
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I think the person you're replying to is arguing all exemptions of conscience should be ubiquitous.
That we shouldn't have to rely on religion to fight that proxy battle for us.
Re:Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be finger...
by programmarchy on Sunday September 12, 2021 @10:30PM
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For military service the term conscientious objector comes to mind which Wikipedia defines as “ [refusal] on the grounds of freedom of thought, conscience, or religion” which seems appropriate to me.
Re:Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be finger...
by jobigoud on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @03:21AM
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"Refusal on the ground of freedom of thought" is enough to convey exactly the same without loss of meaning. No need to mention religion, no need for religion-specific exemptions.
Re:Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be finger...
by ironmagma on Sunday September 12, 2021 @11:48PM
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Thinking about it practically… should we need to rely on it? Ideally no. But the reality seems to be, religion is getting us something we otherwise wouldn’t get. So why get rid of the good thing? If anything this is evidence of religion’s value.
Re:Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be finger...
by leeoniya on Monday September 13, 2021 @12:49AM
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> If anything this is evidence of religion’s value.
that's an odd take. a bit like saying "our founders loved X, so they carved out favorable laws for X, which is evidence that X is good."
Re:Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be finger...
by ironmagma on Monday September 13, 2021 @01:18AM
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If religion isn’t necessary to the well functioning of our system, we should expect to see just as many irreligious court challenges to this requirement that succeed. That said, we don’t. Regardless of whether it’s “inherently valuable,” it seems to be valuable here and now, in this system we live in.
And it's an excellent proxy since most people's consciences are formed by their religious beliefs (maybe not most HNers, but that's observational bias)