Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by hrnn on Saturday September 11, 2021 @07:03AM
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Seems based in Austria (surprised to see it here, I thought it was local only).
Minimum salary as per collective agreement must be displayed on the job listing, but for skilled workers it's a mere reference. I asked 40% more than what was advertised for my current job and got it.
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by invalidusernam3 on Saturday September 11, 2021 @07:25AM
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Also doesn't Austria do do that thing where employees get paid 14 times a year instead of the normal 12?
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by gehatare on Saturday September 11, 2021 @07:28AM
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Yes, you get the monthly salary 14 times, the last two are taxed at lower rates.
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by nxpnsv on Saturday September 11, 2021 @07:56AM
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Yup, you certainly can argue for more…
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by ginko on Saturday September 11, 2021 @08:16AM
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It's an Austrian law thing. They have to list a salary so essentially all job offers show the legal Kollektivvertrag minimum salary which is obviously way too little. They then add "es besteht die Bereitschaft zur Überzahlung" saying they're willing to pay more than that.
So essentially just ignore the salaries in Austrian job offers.
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by cehrlich on Saturday September 11, 2021 @11:38AM
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Just out of curiosity, how do typical ‘real’ dev salaries in Austria compare to KV values? What is a reasonable expectation for Junior, Senior, etc.?
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by bootloop on Saturday September 11, 2021 @02:42PM
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Any number mentioned is going to be wrong. It heavily depends on the area the business is operating in, the size of the company, the work you have to do and the location you are based (Vienna/city vs country side).
Vienna is very competitive so salery can exceed KV quite a bit. Even for entry positions. On the country side it will depend but usually not much more. But costs of living (especially housing) are also lower.
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by the_mitsuhiko on Saturday September 11, 2021 @12:06PM
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In actual IT companies entry salaries for a developer these days is around 70k.
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by c0l0 on Saturday September 11, 2021 @07:17AM
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I used to work there as Senior Sysadmin for several years. My pay was competitive with most offerings the Austrian IT market can be brought to bear.
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by boshomi on Saturday September 11, 2021 @07:34AM
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"Mad Wuzzler Skills" required? (Wuzzler means table soccer in Austria.)
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by c0l0 on Saturday September 11, 2021 @07:41AM
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We had great wuzzler culture there (with a former semi-pro on the tech team back then), which eventually prompted me to ask them to introduce that "requirement"/nice-to-have to the job ads. Nice to see they still list it! ;)
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by 4ad on Saturday September 11, 2021 @09:54AM
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That being said, competitive for Austria is low even compared to western Europe, and of course unfathomably lower than the US.
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by lazyjones on Monday September 13, 2021 @03:20AM
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Austria has had both male and female world champions a few years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_table_football_c...
There's 3 different popular table "systems" I have seen: Garlando, Leonhart and Tornado.
In Austria, Garlando is used almost exclusively (except active competitive players who need to know all of them), therefore Austrians aren't as good at Tornado/Leonhart typically.
Re:Geizhals – Tech Product Price Comparison and Tracking
by the_mitsuhiko on Saturday September 11, 2021 @08:24AM
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Minimum salaries have to be quoted by law in Austria. Actual salaries are not disclosed. We're also only quoting the legal minimum we have to.
> Angaben gemäß GlBG: Das KV-Mindestgrundgehalt für diese Position beträgt € 3,501 brutto monatlich (IT-Kollektivvertrag 2021, ST1 Erfahrungsstufe, Vollzeit = 38,5h), es besteht die Bereitschaft zur Überzahlung.
Seems they are even more stingy than their customers...