Re:OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or...
by ctrlp on Friday September 10, 2021 @09:15AM
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I also see a familiar pattern with sentiments like yours. There is little to no concern for people whose livelihoods or psychological health were harmed by health policies that prioritize the vulnerable minority over everyone else, including children. Health policy diktats aimed at saving every life will inevitably harm many in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. Will the cumulative harms ever be counted? Not likely as it would destabilize the comfortable narrative many of us rely on to justify our prejudices.
Re:OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or...
by ImPostingOnHN on Friday September 10, 2021 @12:29PM
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I don't think I've seen any evidence that there is little to no concern for those things
unless you count "not getting your way" as evidence that nobody is concerned
just consider the possibility that, that other people consider other things to be more harmful to individuals and society, and thus more important to prioritize when interests compete
Re:OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or...
by dwaltrip on Friday September 10, 2021 @10:13PM
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This is why the vaccine is great. It vastly helps end the pandemic, while the worst thing 99.99% of people will experience from the vaccine is feeling sick for a day or so at most.
Re:OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or...
by vxNsr on Friday September 10, 2021 @09:46AM
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I’ve seen arguments made that we’ve lost a significant number of ppl due to suicide, dementia, etc.
Re:OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or...
by tomrod on Friday September 10, 2021 @12:04PM
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It's possible. We can compare year over year deaths to investigate excess deaths (which is really the best approach to fully appreciate the mortality impact). Such an analysis misses long term side effects like Long COVID, but does capture things like changes to traffic deaths and suicides. The CDC publishes this info.
Re:OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or...
by Jeema101 on Friday September 10, 2021 @12:52PM
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Sure let's count them.
Suicide killed 44,834 Americans in 2020.
Covid killed half a million Americans from March 2020 to March 2021.
Are you sure you're really as concerned about public health as you claim to be?
Re:OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or...
by ctrlp on Friday September 10, 2021 @02:00PM
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Suicide is one harm. There are others. If you only care about the binary of life/death then you'd make a good bureaucrat, but you're missing out on a rainbow of human experience.
Re:OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or...
by oceanplexian on Friday September 10, 2021 @10:26AM
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Authoritarian governments have killed millions of people too. Civil liberties shouldn’t be hand waved as a sort of a selfish privilege when most of them were written in blood after terrible wars and periods of oppression.
Re:OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or...
by tomrod on Friday September 10, 2021 @12:06PM
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Indeed. I believe this is why Biden's approach came after long deliberation. Civil liberties are not something to be trifle with, and this has to be balanced with the government's reason to exist (as per the Constitution preamble, ensure the general welfare).
I see a familiar pattern with sentiments like this: showing lots of hand-wringing over civil liberties, but seemingly no concern over all the people who have died and who have been incapacitated. Those people had a right to not be exposed to a deadly virus.