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Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by hutzlibu on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:00PM (#28464122)
> There's even the suggestion that there are creatures that can't really be classified into plant or animal - it's not clear what they are at all.

No plant or animal, but alive. How strange, rare and exotic ... like a mushroom?

(Mushrooms are not a plant nor animal either, but if you look close enough, mushrooms are indeed strange and exotic, though)

Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by andrewstuart on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:03PM (#28464150)
You are correct. I believe there are five kingdoms of living things, and mushrooms belong to fungi.

https://www.iberdrola.com/sustainability/biology-kingdoms-li...

https://www.iberdrola.com/wcorp/gc/prod/en_US/comunicacion/r...

Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by tr3ndyBEAR on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:40PM (#28464399)
The number of domains/kingdoms/empires/superkingdoms of living things is actually much more of a matter of debate amongst taxonomists than people realize.

Taking our classification schemes as a fact about biology is confusing the map for the territory.

But you are correct that mushrooms (which is the fruiting body of some types of fungi) are separate from plants (and actually more closely related to animals. They're basically animals that digest things externally instead of having a stomach to digest things internally)

Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by loonster on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:29PM (#28465872)
We digest externally too. We just carry the outside around with us.
Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by thaumasiotes on Thursday September 09, 2021 @12:36AM (#28466234)
This shouldn't have been downvoted; external digestion, usually known as "cooking", is one of the most important features of human biology, explaining why our intestines are so short.
Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by dodobirdlord on Thursday September 09, 2021 @01:14AM (#28466495)
An animal’s gut is also arguably “external”, in the sense that the gastrointestinal tract means an animal is a topological torus, and the contents of the gut are also “outside” of the body. It’s an open question how the closed digestive tract evolved, but it presumably came from a digestive surface of some sort folding over on itself, since it must have evolved in creatures that were previously able to digest. The same general phenomenon presumably produced lungs by cavitating a gas-exchange surface to increase surface area.
Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by thaumasiotes on Thursday September 09, 2021 @02:53AM (#28467043)
Well, a digestive surface is necessarily external in that sense, since the only things you want to digest originate outside the body. The options are that you have a digestive surface that is open to the world, or that you have one which is protected within your interior, but nevertheless topologically external.

Or, I guess, that you have a topologically external surface which does nothing but create vacuoles around food, which then get transmitted to a topologically internal digestive surface. (Similar mechanisms do exist for other purposes; one thing that may happen to a splinter embedded in your finger is that the body applies a protective coating to the splinter and then expels it.)

Starfish seem like an interesting case here, in that they have an ordinary internal stomach which they extrude, when they're eating, for the purpose of external digestion.

Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by dotancohen on Thursday September 09, 2021 @01:49AM (#28466718)
If you have further reading material on these two developments, I'd be thrilled to go over them. The subject is fascinating, but layman subject matter is scarce and I already have a profession.
Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by loonster on Thursday September 09, 2021 @10:35AM (#28470143)
I agree that cooking is a form of digestion, but that is not what I was thinking when I made my comment. We are walking tubes. The cavity inside of the tube is still external to the tube itself.

This is a video that partially explains the concept.

https://youtu.be/vuIlsN32WaE

Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by pvaldes on Thursday September 09, 2021 @03:45AM (#28467306)
Short intestines are a characteristic typical of predators.

Our ancestors probably started as insectivores / frugivores / egg eaters

Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by pvaldes on Thursday September 09, 2021 @07:34AM (#28468542)
The kingdoms Protozoa and Chromista include some former algae that have also motile 'spermatozoan like' forms in its lifecycle. The were plants before, but in some parts of this lifecycle they act like microscopic animals.
Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by TheSpiceIsLife on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:14PM (#28465462)
I wouldn’t call fungi exotic.

There are fungal spores pretty much everywhere, healthy animals are just particularly good at keeping they’re active forms at bay.

Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by hutzlibu on Thursday September 09, 2021 @04:33AM (#28467549)
Well, I said, if you look close enough, you might find them to be much more alien and exotic, than one would expect.
Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by TheSpiceIsLife on Thursday September 09, 2021 @11:05PM (#28477327)
Yeah sorry I misreads the context of your comment.
Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by smartbit on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:39PM (#28465926)
hutzlibu was ironic.

That you didn’t see this, make me think that some cultures have more use of irony than others. I can imaging that in a potpourri of cultures like the USA irony can often be misunderstood and therefore is less used than in other countries.

Re:Massive animal species discovered in half-billion-year-ol... by austinprete on Thursday September 09, 2021 @01:20AM (#28466521)
Wow, that’s a lot of extrapolation from one comment.

First of all, TheSpiceIsLife is Tasmanian according to their bio.

Second, even if they were American to then assume that all Americans can’t pick up on irony or sarcasm because one person on the internet missed an instance of it is quite the stretch.