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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by isoskeles on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:16PM (#28459253)
Except now I’m supposed to show a digital vaccine record many places I go. Not many open source options exist for reading them either, so I’m just supposed to trust that the data (name, birth date, maybe location) isn’t being sent to some marketing analytics company somewhere.

Edit: Since some HN commenters want to play disingenuous games and insert words into my mouth, I’ll clarify my specific problem is with these apps having zero standards. If my state makes its own app or devises a law to prosecute this kind of use of private data, I would have less of a problem with it as a temporary measure.

Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by Jasper_ on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:28PM (#28459426)
when I got my first vaccine, they gave me a paper card, and they put stickers on it to record which vaccines I got, and I put it in my wallet where it's been ever since. I haven't (yet, I guess) had to show a "digital vaccine record", I just show my paper card and they stare at it for a bit and then wave me through.

if you did not get that option, that sucks, and it sounds a bit inconvenient, but, uh, yeah, over 600,000 people in the US have died so far, i don't think that's a "scare", that sounds like a valid concern to me.

also your data is almost assuredly at 20 different marketing analytics firms already, regardless of how secure or open-source the digital vaccine record is.

Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by isoskeles on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:48PM (#28459698)
You don’t know where my data is. And regardless, that doesn’t mean I’m supposed to be okay with another vector that I cannot opt out of for potentially selling my data.
Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by void_mint on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:39PM (#28459564)
> Except now I’m supposed to show a digital vaccine record many places I go. Not many open source options exist for reading them either, so I’m just supposed to trust that the data (name, birth date, maybe location) isn’t being sent to some marketing analytics company somewhere.

If you think vaccine passports are bad just wait until you hear about all phones...

Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by isoskeles on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:45PM (#28459646)
Sorry bud, I can turn off my phone. I can leave my phone at home. My phone carrier doesn’t sell my location, they just give it to the police if I commit a murder.
Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by jazzyjackson on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @01:13PM (#28460099)
I don’t really see what this has to do with vaccine passports (Louisana has a nice app for it, digital drivers license, proof of vaccination checked against a state database) but phone carriers do sell real-time location data to third parties. They were fined a pittance for it: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/fcc-issues-wrist...
Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by void_mint on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:46PM (#28459661)
Sorry bud, you can avoid events that require vaccine passports. You can move to deeply conservative states that share your views.

Tell me again how it's different.

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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by void_mint on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:52PM (#28459750)
> Oh I bet you use that same dipshit logic

This amount of disrespect is unwarranted.

> when discussing homeless people being told to move somewhere cheaper.

What an absolutely insane whataboutism. This has nothing to do with what we're discussing and you look like a joke. You're asserting that vaccine passports infringe upon your freedoms. Just don't go to those bars. Jesus.

Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by hunterb123 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @01:00PM (#28459881)
What if the city like NY ordered ALL bars to stop you for your papers.

Now you can't go to any bars. That hurts minorities the most as they are the most unvaccinated.

Its new world segregation essentially.

But yes those people could just pick up and move, and many are. Look at the numbers.

Unfortunately many cannot because they aren't on a SWE salary.

Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by void_mint on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @01:02PM (#28459914)
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by void_mint on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @01:08PM (#28460007)
What rights? Businesses have the right to refuse service. Governments have always required vaccine verification. This is just whining. There are no rights implications here.

Also calling me a nazi isn't really appropriate, I don't think.

Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by hunterb123 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @01:11PM (#28460057)
Is it though if the government is forcing businesses to check it?

If you're okay with forcing people to show their medical history to drink, I think you can handle a word being thrown at you. Nazi.

Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by void_mint on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @02:29PM (#28461198)
> If you're okay with forcing people to show their medical history to drink,

This is the obvious troll. You're not forced to show anything _to drink_. You're forced to comply with a business's requirements as per their rights, to be allowed to drink _in their establishment_.

Also please go back to reddit if you cannot resist the urge to call names.