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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by switch007 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:09AM (#28458222)
They didn’t cite excess deaths however. Hence my question

Again, you say “covid deaths”. That is not precise.

Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by ridaj on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @03:22PM (#28461824)
Do we say "death from car accidents" or "death with car accident"? Do we discount terminal cancer patients, diabetics and asthmatics from car accident stats because they had a preexisting condition? In the case of covid as with car accidents, it's a distinction without a difference. Yes people are more predisposed to die from covid because of them, but analyses of all-causes excess mortality do not support the hypothesis that there is a large difference between deaths with covid and deaths from covid.

EDIT: except when there isn't enough testing, which underreported deaths with covid towards the beginning of the pandemic.

Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by rootusrootus on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:38AM (#28458682)
We count flu deaths as 'with flu' instead of 'from flu', so counting covid this way keeps it as close to apples-to-apples as possible.
Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by JoshTko on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:02PM (#28464138)
Citations are on wiki page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:COVID-19_pandemic_dat...

Does precision matter in this case?