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Re:Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate by gorwell on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @01:08AM (#28453275)
As the Australian government rapidly moves toward an authoritarian police state, does part of you wonder if they'd be so cavalier if their citizens had guns? Or if that might be a deterrent to tyranny at some point?
Re:Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate by Nursie on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @01:15AM (#28453310)
I don't think it is moving towards being an authoritarian police state any more than any other western country, and I wouldn't want to live in a country where citizens had easy access to guns, and suffered the violence and mass shootings that seem to come from that, like in the US.

Hope that helps.

Re:Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate by gorwell on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @03:08PM (#28461671)
"I don't think it is moving towards being an authoritarian police state any more than any other western country"

The example on which this thread is based, and otherwise discussed within this thread (checking in every 15 minutes with the state or be visited by the police), is well beyond other western countries and especially the USA at this point. We'll see if that holds.

Re:Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate by bserge on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @02:48AM (#28453885)
You imagine some ragtag groups fighting against the police and military with the guns they bought a decade or two ago?

Personal ownership of guns doesn't help that much. You need a lot of people, a lot of organized people. At which point you can acquire or even create the weapons you need.

Re:Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate by ipatec on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @05:48AM (#28455002)
Not really. Even an unorganized small group of armed people can create enough damage to the Police/Government forces that it's not worth the fight.
Re:Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate by bserge on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @06:30AM (#28455252)
Perhaps in the past.

The sheer numbers and equipment of modern police and military forces are overwhelming. You need a lot of people, good organization, support from the inside.

Not to mention you'll be hit with the media first, discrediting all of your efforts and painting you as a terrorist or traitor in everyone's minds. Then you're easy pickings.

Re:Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate by crazym8 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:14AM (#28455466)
Seems like the Taliban did fine taking their country back from globalists, with a bunch of used weapons from the 70s and Toyota utes.
Re:Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate by bserge on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @08:01AM (#28455815)
Their country, yeah.
Re:Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate by gorwell on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:03AM (#28457147)
You don't have to imagine, look at Afghanistan. A ragtag group of people won against the strongest military in the world.
Re:Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate by King-Aaron on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @02:29AM (#28453768)
lol you're kidding yourself if you think having armed citizens would make any difference to authoritarian policy anywhere.
Re:Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate by thallium205 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:47AM (#28455702)
I've personally witnessed a single gunman absolutely shutdown and preoccupy the entire Philadelphia police forever for several hours. One guy.

You all seriously overestimate the capabilities of the police.

Re:Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate by gorwell on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:01AM (#28457125)
You're kidding yourself if you think it wouldn't. Didn't the Taliban just win despite 20 years of military occupation?