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Re:SICP is Under Attack by absconditus on Thursday August 04, 2011 @01:53AM (#2844815)
So basically you and 90% of your colleagues hate computer science. You want a vocational education in software development, which is something different.
Re:SICP is Under Attack by d0m on Thursday August 04, 2011 @08:13AM (#2845597)
No, I said SICP was by far my favorite book. I already knew how to program before joining the university.. my goal there was to go deeper than what I already knew.

However, the big majority of my colleagues there didn't want that. They really enjoyed "Design patterns", "C++".. but hated anything potentially more abstract (Like compilers, Algorithm). Note that I'm talking about software engineering.. and not about computer science, which is really different imo (as engineer might have a more practical mind).

Re:SICP is Under Attack by bartwe on Thursday August 04, 2011 @06:12AM (#2845311)
Who offers a vocational education at an university level? Not everybody who is smart wants to be an academic.
Re:SICP is Under Attack by absconditus on Thursday August 04, 2011 @07:20AM (#2845459)
What does your comment have to do with what I wrote? No one is denying that many people really want a vocational education. No one is claiming that smart people should want to be academics. The point is that what people want is not computer science. Civil engineers do not enroll in physics programs and then complain that their physics professors are not teaching them anything about practical bridge construction.
Re:SICP is Under Attack by Apocryphon on Thursday August 04, 2011 @01:46PM (#2846941)
Then the problem is with college departments and administration who fail to create separate programs distinguishing between CS and SE.
Re:SICP is Under Attack by zoips on Thursday August 04, 2011 @04:01PM (#2847504)
I'd argue that that would be a really bad idea. You can't be a good software engineer without having a good grasp of Computer Science.
Re:SICP is Under Attack by Apocryphon on Thursday August 04, 2011 @07:42PM (#2848297)
There's nothing to stop them from having a lot of overlap. Much like how Computer Engineering overlaps quite a bit with EE.
Re:SICP is Under Attack by saraid216 on Thursday August 04, 2011 @01:23PM (#2846846)
Community colleges offer an excellent education in the programmer vocation.