Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft from stores

Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by mycall on Friday September 03, 2021 @10:31PM (#28411585)

Maybe if the CVS/Wallgreens/etc took a different tactic. Don't let people inside. Take orders online or line outside, deliver or pick up at the door. Distribute more intelligently.

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Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by voldacar on Saturday September 04, 2021 @12:58AM (#28412200)

This should not be necessary in a first-world country. Public institutions should actually do their jobs, or we should stop having to pay for them

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Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by vkou on Saturday September 04, 2021 @01:13AM (#28412248)

> Public institutions should actually do their jobs, or we should stop having to pay for them

There's been a rather noteworthy series of protests over the past summer on the subject of whether or not it's worth it to pay for some of these institutions.

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Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by josephcsible on Friday September 03, 2021 @10:33PM (#28411590)

Everywhere else, stores can let people inside without crime being rampant, so obviously this isn't the problem.

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Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by michaelmrose on Saturday September 04, 2021 @12:27AM (#28412074)

What about only letting in people in who have phones attesting to a unique id.

Don't let in people without a device and ban people who are caught stealing once. If they force the doors and come in call the cops and prosecute for felony burglary even if they were only originally banned for stealing socks originally.

Share bad lists and stealing socks means that you are suddenly banned from every store in 100 miles.

Make exceptions for curbside pickup and pre scheduled trips to the grocery store/pharmacy where you will pay for the security that will walk around with you.

Expire people off the list after 5 years of one theft or never after a string of thefts.

For the normal customer nothing happens your phone silently attests from your pocket that you aren't on the list by pinging a service and retrieving a token not sharing your info with the store.

Losers here an alarm sound and a voice telling them to buzz off on penalty of jail.

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Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by josephcsible on Saturday September 04, 2021 @12:31AM (#28412089)

> Losers here an alarm sound and a voice telling them to buzz off on penalty of jail.

If they're not going to jail for openly shoplifting, why do you think they'd go to jail for this?

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Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by michaelmrose on Saturday September 04, 2021 @12:39AM (#28412133)

Forcing your way into a place to commit a crime is automatically a felony in almost all states. This is true even if the planned crime would be a misdemeanor.

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Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by josephcsible on Saturday September 04, 2021 @12:42AM (#28412144)

Why does it matter whether it's a misdemeanor or a felony, if Chesa is going to drop the charge either way?

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Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by michaelmrose on Saturday September 04, 2021 @12:46AM (#28412156)

At some point the government actually has to enforce the law. There is no system that can be imagined that obviates that.

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Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by josephcsible on Saturday September 04, 2021 @12:52AM (#28412174)

That's exactly my point. But once we have a prosecutor who actually prosecutes criminals, then the crime levels will reduce without needing the phone ID system.

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Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by _lazlo on Sunday September 05, 2021 @06:54AM (#28423234)

You’re making a mistake in thinking something has to happen. It may not, and things may just continue to go downhill.

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