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Re:How long can a democracy maintain emergency limits and st... by iammisc on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:25AM (#28401029)
You're getting down voted because more and more of the us is back to normal and is not experiencing these terrible outcomes. Kids are back in school. People back in offices. Clubs open, bars open, parties, etc. You come across as someone who feels themselves morally superior because they are living in a state of lockdown.

Like a holy ascetic hermit mocking the commoners.

Re:How long can a democracy maintain emergency limits and st... by tadfisher on Friday September 03, 2021 @03:34AM (#28401405)
I live in a blue state, and hospitals are currently setting up tents in parking lots to make room for more COVID patients. ECMO and ventilator capacity is at 100%. This state is far from the top of the list in infection rate.

Things are not going back to normal, no matter how much we act like they are.

Re:How long can a democracy maintain emergency limits and st... by hilbert42 on Monday September 06, 2021 @12:31PM (#28435364)
Exactly, thanks.

(I'm sorry I never studied psychology. I've always wanted to know why some people can state categorically that black is white or vise versa when the overwhelming evidence is to the contrary.) :-)

Re:How long can a democracy maintain emergency limits and st... by iammisc on Friday September 03, 2021 @07:42PM (#28410667)
Things always go back to normal no matter how many doom preachers there are.
Re:How long can a democracy maintain emergency limits and st... by hilbert42 on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:58AM (#28434976)
"<...>someone who feels themselves morally superior because they are living in a state of lockdown."

That's actually not correct. I don't expect you to believe it but you'd be able to ascertain that's it's incorrect if you read some of my earlier posts on the subject.

Several points, as I've said previously, I rather like lockdowns as they allow me time to do things that I've not time for otherwise - or time that I wouldn't normally be able to justify. Check for yourself (it's there in writing).

My main point is that I've precious little time for bloody-minded fools who: (a) deny science - that's to say the best advice available, (b) clearly haven't studied the facts - not even superficially so, (c) are acting in ways contrary to their own health and best interests and (d) their lack of concern for the health of others who do actually care. People who are knowingly prepared to infect others who may die as a consequence are a dangerous menace to society and throughout history we've locked them up - as I've mentioned Mary Mallon is a case in point (the tragedy of that case was how she was treated after she was locked up).

Throughout history - even going back to the Black Death/plague and before, people were expected to follow protocols - locked up in their houses etc. This is not a new requirement. So what gives the right of stupid people to do so now? None I'd suggest.

BTW, in response to the ludicrous, inaccurate and often dangerous memes circulating on Social Media and elsewhere, a colleague of mine coined the phrase "We've reached peak stupid". Not only do I concur but I'm sorry I didn't think of that myself. It says it all really.

Re:How long can a democracy maintain emergency limits and st... by nhinck on Friday September 03, 2021 @04:22AM (#28401687)
It really doesn't seem like you're getting back to normal so much as ignoring excess deaths and being fine with it.
Re:How long can a democracy maintain emergency limits and st... by nickthemagicman on Friday September 03, 2021 @05:24AM (#28402053)
Under 20% of the population is in a high vulnerable group to Covid.

Quarantine is voluntary. If you choose to leave it, you face the consequences.

This is a personal responsibility problem not a society wide problem.

Simple as.

Re:How long can a democracy maintain emergency limits and st... by lovich on Friday September 03, 2021 @11:05AM (#28405168)
I can’t imagine thinking that 20% of the population of my society is highly likely to die and then consider it a personal responsibility problem
Re:How long can a democracy maintain emergency limits and st... by nickthemagicman on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:59PM (#28407984)
People literally sacrificed themselves in numerous wars to give the rest of us exactly these abstract concepts of freedom and self determination.
Re:How long can a democracy maintain emergency limits and st... by lovich on Friday September 03, 2021 @08:31PM (#28411003)
20% of the population? Or is that hyperbole?
Re:How long can a democracy maintain emergency limits and st... by iammisc on Friday September 03, 2021 @07:43PM (#28410671)
Which is normal... Thousands die each day and we are fine with it... Because that's normal.