News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:The Australian federal government is planning to de-anony... by inglor_cz on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:06AM (#28392178)
Doesn't Canada have the same problem, only centering around freedom of speech and its suppression?

In my country, Canadians used to be a stereotype for tough, independent minded people.

Re:The Australian federal government is planning to de-anony... by hudsonjr on Thursday September 02, 2021 @11:07AM (#28392978)
I'm not sure it's just speech.

I have worked with Canadians for a while, but the past 2-3 years they seem to be more controlling/authoritarian even in the corporate structure. I am in the US, and I am more "here is the outcome we need, achieve that how you like". I think the Canadians I worked with used to be the same way, but now they seem to be more "it needs to be done one way, everywhere, with oversight".

With a global company there are local differences in culture, laws, and priority so the "one way" seems to be a poor fit.

Re:The Australian federal government is planning to de-anony... by switchbak on Thursday September 02, 2021 @12:23PM (#28394002)
I'm Canadian, have lived all over this country, as well as in the USA, as well as working with Americans for 15+ years. I don't see any recent change in the behaviour of the people I interact with - from either side of the border.

Those over-generalizations of yours don't match my experience in any way. I'm not sure where that perception is coming from, but I see none of that. I think you're drawing correlations from too little data here.

I have seen major changes in politics however, especially as it relates to the progressive left. Perhaps you're seeing a different shift at play.

Re:The Australian federal government is planning to de-anony... by defaultname on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:12AM (#28392248)
The "common good" is one of the most fundamental elements of the Canadian perspective and there has never been such a focus on "freedom of speech".

Gun rights, speech rights, etc, all are weighed against the common good at every juncture. Hate speech has never been considered a personal right in Canada.

Re:The Australian federal government is planning to de-anony... by inglor_cz on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:19AM (#28392350)
Common good strikes me as even more nebulous than most other political concepts, especially in absence of direct democracy which could at least shed some light on what the population really prefers.

Not to insult anyone and much less Canadians, but I can see Ghaddafi or Khmer Rouge using this expression to justify whatever they decided to do.

Re:The Australian federal government is planning to de-anony... by JackFr on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:54AM (#28392804)
The "common good" used to include the Indian Residential School system.

There's one where maybe a little greater weight on personal freedom was indicated.

Re:The Australian federal government is planning to de-anony... by ipaddr on Thursday September 02, 2021 @11:20AM (#28393149)
This is what exactly happened. The common good was applied. Today we are making similiar mistakes that future leaders will say sorry for in the future.
Re:The Australian federal government is planning to de-anony... by switchbak on Thursday September 02, 2021 @12:34PM (#28394150)
There certainly is a focus on freedom of speech, and it's in our charter of rights and freedoms as one of the fundamental freedoms: "freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication".

You're right that we do have a different balance of the common good vs individual liberties as compared to the USA, but of course there are many countries that one could compare to.

Canada certainly doesn't abide by free-speech absolutism, and "hate speech" is a good example. That term used to be applied to very specific, extreme examples. Unfortunately that has been watered down in recent years, and we've seen encroachment in others ways on various freedoms. Not Australia levels, but not great.

Re:The Australian federal government is planning to de-anony... by LegitShady on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:39AM (#28392634)
All those rights are weighed against a non specific nebulous common good that can mean whatever it needs to mean at that moment to allow activist judges or the government of the day to get what they want.

Freedom of speech would serve Canada better in the long run than censorship and government control of speech