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Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t... by joshuamorton on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:09PM (#28385543)
For the same reason that we generally believe that my right to clean drinking water outweighs your right to dump toxic waste in a river, even if it is useful to you.

Some doors are very difficult to un-open, and caution is warranted when making sweeping changes to space that may do any number of negative things, including make future spaceflights more difficult, make ground-based space research impossible (increasing the price of future space research and making satellites the only way to do get good data), etc.

Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t... by idiotsecant on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:14PM (#28385584)
Demanding clean orbits at deployments with built-in short term decay trajectories is a funny hill to die on though.
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t... by panick21 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @07:14PM (#28386729)
What you demand is not clean drinking water, rather that nobody is allowed to use the river at all because you like to see the water flow.

You are basically saying 'nobody is allowed to put a boat on this river because I like nature'.

> caution is warranted when making sweeping changes to space that may do any number of negative things, including make future spaceflights more difficult, make ground-based space research impossible

And that why FCC exists and they have mostly agree that this is not actually a problem.

Nobody has a larger intensive not to make future spaceflight harder then SpaceX.

And the idea that all ground-based space research is impossible is equally nonsense that has often been disproven.

Even in your dystopian nightmare, the reality is that within a few years the orbits SpaceX used would be clean again or that based on government order SpaceX could de-orbit 99.9% of all sats in a week.

So how about we allow boats onto the river and figure out if its really the end of civilization to do so.

Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t... by bperson on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:47PM (#28385901)
How many years until a solo hobbyist launches a rocket that crosses the Karman line? I bet as soon as three years and not longer than five years. Ground-based research isn't your only tool in the near future.
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t... by CamperBob2 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:12PM (#28385570)
This door is trivial to un-open. If we decide the Starlink constellation is a net negative for humanity, we just need to refrain from launching any more of them. The existing ones will deorbit themselves within a few years at most.