Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by verdverm on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:02PM
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"clog" is relative here and space (including LEO) is huge
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Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by toxik on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:04PM
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We once said the ocean is huge too.
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by Denvercoder9 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:31PM
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Is there anyone claiming the ocean is full?
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by verdverm on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:51PM
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or "clogged"
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by verdverm on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:17PM
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space >>>> air >> ocean > land
It is worth considering the ocean is ~2d while air and space are 3d.
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by colordrops on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:43PM
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And there's nothing in space that supports life or the ecosystem.
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by verdverm on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:53PM
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Depends, could our increased use of satellite based sensing be used to support and improve the terrestrial situation?
Is the tradeoff worth it?
It is certain that your life today would not be the same without GPS, so in a sense it does support it.
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by colordrops on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @06:07PM
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I mean there's nothing in space that we will damage (unlike the ocean) by using it. I'm all for utilizing space.
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by pdq on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:41PM
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The ocean is most certainly 3D. The surface is 2D.
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by verdverm on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:51PM
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~2d was intended to imply effectively 2d for human activities, even airspace is probably closer to a layered 2d cake than true 3d like deeper space. LEO may be closer to an extension of airspace due to orbits and gravity. Still, due to the exponential growth with respect to the radius, there is significant room in LEO compared to anything terrestrial.
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by dylan604 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @06:19PM
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How does this differeniate space and the ocean in your mind? Humans cannot survive in either without some sort of vessel to provide a suitable environment.
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by verdverm on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @06:35PM
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My GGGP point was about "clogging" space with satellites, not about habitation. Space is so large that 100K's of satellites is still not clogged. I believe the SpaceX and AWS constellations are planned to get us pretty close to 100k iirc
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by aidenn0 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @09:41PM
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Quadratic growth, not exponential growth.
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by verdverm on Thursday September 02, 2021 @03:43AM
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I think it's cubic because they sum, polynomial either way, without considering other factors like potential for increased density the further out
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by aidenn0 on Thursday September 02, 2021 @01:14PM
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Right; I meant the number of satellites supportable at any given altitude, not the number of satellites supportable up to a given altitude.
Re:Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t...
by colordrops on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:43PM
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What do you mean?