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Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by acchow on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @03:22PM (#28384440)
This is an invisible advantage that Apple has. Because Macs don't have a long tail of combinations of hardware, BIOS, firmware, etc they can actually recognize bugs and acknowledge them. This gives a better customer experience.
Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by MrStonedOne on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @04:24PM (#28385119)
They made a design flaw (too short flex cable for monitor) on some laptops but only offered extended warranty fixes to the less expensive versions of that laptop.

Apple is not the champion you think it is.

Also they made their phone have random errors and slowness if you replaced the camera module with no error message so that you would blame the tech shop you got it repaired at for "breaking it".

Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by 2muchcoffeeman on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @05:44PM (#28385879)
At least within the eco system, Apple aren’t going to push ads onto your computer.

The dichotomy isn’t Apple vs PC anymore. It’s walled garden vs freedom. If you’re going to choose a walled garden, Apple sure is the nicest. If you want to own your hardware you need to start supporting the smaller players.

Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by webmobdev on Thursday September 02, 2021 @01:38AM (#28389004)
They too bundle useless apps like News, Stock, etc. even if you don't want it or will ever use it on every Apple device.
Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by 2muchcoffeeman on Thursday September 02, 2021 @02:43AM (#28389323)
You can delete most iOS apps: Stocks, News, Mail, Safari are all removable. Also they are not ads and can actually do something useful. MacOS is also ad free.
Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by webmobdev on Saturday September 04, 2021 @12:04AM (#28411976)
While I agree that Apple is much better than others in not bundling adware with their product (the exception being App Store, which is also an advertising platform for them) they do bundle many apps with their device. And bundling is also a kind of advertisement / promotion. And on ios you can't remove some of these apps but only hide them.
Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by fomine3 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @08:19PM (#28387208)
I don't believe Apple will pushing ads, but their laptop can't run OS other than macOS. So if they do harmful thing for macOS, there's no way to escape with same hardware, until Linux hackers make it possible to run Desktop Linux.
Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by imwillofficial on Thursday September 02, 2021 @12:24AM (#28388635)
^ Absolutely not true.

I even got Linux running on an decade old 12in PowerBook G4.

There is even a browser made for PowerPC, although the name escapes me.

Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by fomine3 on Thursday September 02, 2021 @12:30AM (#28388662)
Do you know what's happened on M1 Mac?
Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by ac29 on Thursday September 02, 2021 @12:25PM (#28394027)
Linux is being ported to M1: https://asahilinux.org/
Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by allarm on Thursday September 02, 2021 @01:47AM (#28389049)
I run Linux on my Macbook Pro 2013.
Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by deergomoo on Thursday September 02, 2021 @05:26AM (#28390105)
> they can actually recognize bugs and acknowledge them

Unless it’s a hardware flaw and then they will usually ignore it until it looks like they may be legally compelled not to.

GPU failures, display flex cable issues, insufficient heat dissipation, the fact that the 16” MBP GPU pulls 100% power when connected to an external display, the fucking butterfly keyboard.

Don’t get me wrong I like my MacBook as much as the next guy, but if there is a hardware problem in a MacBook you’ll be lucky if they even acknowledge it.

Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by speed_spread on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @03:29PM (#28384529)
But because the hardware is proprietary, the length of that simpler tail still depends entirely on Apple's willingness to support it's legacy products.
Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by acdha on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @04:09PM (#28384967)
This is true — and if you look at the history, it tends to support the person you replied to. They tend to support consumer hardware at least as long as most enterprise lines.
Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by stalfosknight on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @06:12PM (#28386162)
Apple’s policy is to support all hardware models for at least 5 years, 7 in some jurisdictions.
Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by speed_spread on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @11:17PM (#28388312)
Considering that ten year old computers are still usable today, it means that the supported lifetime of Apple hardware is half of what it could be.

And it's not just the computer itself but the whole ecosystem that gets the boot periodically. Last year I built a Linux-based 24 track digital studio on the cheap by buying Firewire soundcards that no longer worked on the latest Macs. Great hardware that otherwise still worked perfectly.

Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by stalfosknight on Thursday September 02, 2021 @12:36AM (#28388690)
It’s more that Apple is striking a balance between a reasonable hardware support timeframe and moving their software platforms forward with at a certain velocity without excessive legacy baggage.

Waste is a legitimate concern and Apple has very convenient trade-in and recycling programs to address that.

Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by speed_spread on Thursday September 02, 2021 @03:30PM (#28396306)
We wouldn't have to recycle as much if it was easier to reuse the machines in the first place. It's still planned obsolescence.
Re:Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-muta... by rrdharan on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @04:10PM (#28384980)
I consider it an extremely visible advantage.