System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by throwaway9980 on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @06:41PM (#28374522)

It's oh so terrible isn't it? I feel like this is one of those flexible majority things that Nassim Taleb talks about [1]. The vast majority of people don't care one way or the other. There is a small minority who wants the numeric keypad and an even smaller minority that despises the numeric keypad and will never buy a laptop that includes one. For me, it's always been yet another selling point for the Macbook.

[1] https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dict...

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Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by throwaway-jim on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @06:52PM (#28374611)

The trackpad is not centered. I'm the small minority that won't touch a laptop with an off centered trackpad. It's very uncomfortable for me as I use my right hand. Ideally manufacturers should make a large touch screen/surface that covers the entire area below the keyboard. We have the technology, it can be done.

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Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by CRConrad on Thursday September 02, 2021 @03:34PM (#28396355)

Asus (IIRC) did that a year or three ago.

EDIT: Except the secondary screen is above the keyboard: https://www.asus.com/Laptops/For-Home/ZenBook/ZenBook-Duo-14...

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Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by clipradiowallet on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @07:02PM (#28374680)

> smaller minority that despises the numeric keypad and will never buy a laptop that includes one

I'm in this minority! Why don't people use the top-row numbers!?!?

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Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by SilverRed on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @12:38AM (#28376491)

Some programs like blender treat the top row numbers as totally different things (actually numbers vs camera movements) and for people typing a lot of numbers, the num pad is faster apparently.

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Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by syshum on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @07:54PM (#28375041)

I would prefer a keyboard with out the Top row of numbers. Those are pretty much useless.

So much so that I often use AHK to remap the top number row to be other functions.

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Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by tcoff91 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @12:45AM (#28376527)

Useless? Did you never learn how to touch type the numbers? Unless you do data entry the top row numbers are vastly quicker to get to than the number pad. You just reach a finger out and tap instead of moving your whole hand to the number pad.

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Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by syshum on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @06:48AM (#28378244)

I am not in a full time development role anymore, but even when I was I never felt the need to drive my WPM numbers to the extreme.. So the fractions of a second it may save was not a consideration.

I find the 10-key to be more accurate and faster for me. My muscle memory is numbers are entered with my right hand...

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Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by Dylan16807 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @02:31AM (#28376971)

You find the entire row useless? Do you set up a special modifier for those symbols, or what?

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