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Re:Apple can read your iMessages (even though they’re E2E en... by amelius on Saturday August 28, 2021 @05:40PM (#28341758)
a) this feature supposedly exists for the average user who wants to have their data back if they forget their password. Apple points at the user and says they are the reason for having this backdoor.

b) this is just false; whether the data is at rest or not has nothing to do with the definition of the term. And it is misleading in any case.

Re:Apple can read your iMessages (even though they’re E2E en... by threeseed on Saturday August 28, 2021 @05:49PM (#28341808)
a) It's not a backdoor but an explicit design tradeoff. It's hypocritical to be calling people out for using terms correctly and then misuse the term backdoor.

b) The etymology of the term has been blurred by WhatsApp referring to it as both transport and encryption at rest. But historically it has not included the latter part.

Re:Apple can read your iMessages (even though they’re E2E en... by amelius on Saturday August 28, 2021 @05:57PM (#28341859)
> It's hypocritical to be calling people out for using terms correctly and then misuse the term backdoor.

No, it's not because it is another instance. Someone can have one thing right and another thing wrong. And whatever the true meaning of "E2EE", its use in this case is misleading at best, so I'm pretty sure that the profession does not approve of it.