The difference is that now, the discrimination against non white people is mostly unwritten (biases that have measurable effects, but are never outright stated as policies).

Conversely all the discrimination against white people is formal (companies say they want to hire more non white people for diversity, government programs for minority owned businesses, etc).

So from a game theory perspective, the best possible position is one where you are informally perceived as white (so you don't face any of the unwritten biases) but are formally listed as a marginalized group (so you benefit from formal policies intended to help those groups).

Not surprising people who can, would use a DNA test as an excuse to put themselves in that group.

>So from a game theory perspective...

The part you're forgetting is that is incredibly simple to prove you have racial diversity, you can just provide your DNA test results. But if you're formally listed as diverse, it is impossible to then prove you aren't.

Governments around the world are currently working on setting the precedent. Surely if you're a good person you'll take the test so we can strive towards true equity. Those anti-equityers are an existential threat to our society, and more importantly, to marginalized peoples.

Sounds absurd but everything that sounds absurd today is only 5 years down the line. Think of what the unthinkable was 5 years ago or 10 years ago. Don't be surprised when you start to hear about equity ID.

>What would stop said Nazi government from forcing you to take the test anyway?

The fact that testing everybody is difficult both politically and logistically.

That stops liberal democracies. It wouldn't stop Nazis.

I'm discussing the return of one-drop laws, something that happened in a liberal democracy.

The Nazis don't exist anymore. It's so called liberal democracies you've got to be worried about.

I think it’s more likely that increased population mixing will make everyone mixed race and we will have to find something else to talk about.

I can't see that happening. Race is a valuable tool in capital's toolbox of divisiveness.

> While partially based on physical similarities within groups, race does not have an inherent physical or biological meaning.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization)

If race has no biological meaning, why isn't Rachel Dolezal (who was raised with multiple adopted black brothers) allowed to identify as black?

Isn't it seen as lying purely because of her ... genetics?

Since Wikipedia has been run by ultra liberals lately take everything you read there with a grain of salt when it is related to the culture war.

That doesn't really matter for the purposes of the comment you are replying to.

The only thing holding this back is the economic dominance of white people. There's nothing inherently favorable about being white except that, in most cases of human history, white groups have been the dominant economic actors throughout the world. I could easily see this being shifted to another race, i.e. East Asian, should the economic balance of the world substantially change.

> There's nothing inherently favorable about being white except that, in most cases of human history, white groups have been the dominant economic actors throughout the world.

Citation needed. South and East Asia have arguably been economic powerhouses for most of humanity. What we generally identify as white or western civilization has dominated economically during the past few hundred years, and arguably during the Roman Empire.

> It may come as some surprise to learn that, based on studies by the renowned economic historian, Professor Angus Maddison, the Asian economy accounted for nearly 60 percent of the global GDP before the Industrial Revolution which began in the late 18th century

From: https://www.boj.or.jp/en/announcements/press/koen_2015/data/...

> What we generally identify as white or western civilization has dominated economically during the past few hundred years, and arguably during the Roman Empire.

"Most cases of human history" was too broad. I was referencing since the age of exploration. The European colonization of the Americas, Africa, and some parts of Asia was the economic dominance I was referring to. My point is that it's actually fairly recent and aside from a maybe a few hundred more years of riding that wave, there's no reason to think white people will continue to be a dominant group.

If and when you have 15 yo children applying to college, you'll understand this well. If you are Asian, you really understand it --

Ignoring justifiable attempts to increase diversity on campus, Asians find that being Asian American immediately docs points off as compared to White students. Of course I want to find the bit of white in me via DNA tests, so my child can get into a great school with, say, 2200 SATs (standard) vs the 2300 they would require as Asians.

My wife's parents came to the United States from the Philippines. It's a very odd twist that our mixed-race children will benefit on their college admissions forms by checking the box for white.

Completely unfair. I would vastly prefer to walk into any college campus in the United States and be vastly outnumbered by Asians who earned the privilege to be there than to see them be more representative of the population as a whole by changing the standards for different groups.

Claiming or being Jewish would be the most advantageous to get into a top school. Way overrepresented ethnic group even accounting for higher IQ distribution.

What's even more disturbing is the fact that a lot of the justification of discrimination against asians, requiring higher test scores etc. is from none other than Ashkenazi Jews. Imagine the outcry if they were limited to be closer to their population percentage. If people actually cared about racism and being logically consistent, their first concern should be this massive overrepresentation of Jews. They don't.

The expected result from what you're describing is people claiming that they aren't Asian, but the article discusses more people claiming that they are multiracial.