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Re:Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal by azinman2 on Friday August 27, 2021 @01:32PM (#28330668)
From what friends have described, it is very different. I’ve seen it transform a number of lives, including one guy who started out with a single visit to Peru to do it and the decided to live there permenantly. I think context matters as well — these people were all doing it as a group to accomplish something with a shaman, and not just for fun at a rave or whatever.
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Re:Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal by mistrial9 on Friday August 27, 2021 @01:58PM (#28331001)
I have heard tales that the Andes are full of Westerners, mostly young men, who blew out their modern brains and now wander forever..

source: psy-friendly people who have been there

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Re:Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal by the-dude on Friday August 27, 2021 @01:48PM (#28330862)
Did he move there to continue the use? How is that different from an addiction?
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Re:Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal by carabiner on Friday August 27, 2021 @05:36PM (#28333229)
Most people take these substances at most a few times a year, similar to going on a travel vacation. You need time to reset and you don't feel like doing it again for a while. This is far less often than the most addictive drug many of us use, caffeine. Would this mean going on vacations is an addiction? Maybe.
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Re:Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal by azinman2 on Friday August 27, 2021 @02:17PM (#28331226)
You don’t need to go to Peru to get it (there’s plenty of drugs in the Bay Area). He moved there to fundamentally change his life.
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Re:Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal by the-dude on Friday August 27, 2021 @03:30PM (#28332021)
Ok. Does he consume it regulary?
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Re:Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal by nick__m on Friday August 27, 2021 @06:54PM (#28333859)
Even if you want you can't!

Tolerance to hallucinogens grows exponentially. If one take a blotter of LSD, wait 24h, then take another blotter, it will feel like [¼,½] of the original dose. If one wait another 24h and take another dose it will feel like [⅛,¼] and so on. With LSD one must wait a few day between doses to feel the full effects.

With psilocybin, the period of abstinence required to feel the full effect is measured in weeks.

I have no personal experience with Ayahuasca, but administered daily it is probably not too different from medical treatment with Isocarboxazid as the psychedelic component should dissapear and the MAO inhibition should persist.

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Re:Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal by baffythegoat on Sunday August 29, 2021 @10:14PM (#28352245)
Ayahuasca actually is different. There is no noticeable tolerance, unlike most other psychedelics.
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Re:Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal by azinman2 on Friday August 27, 2021 @03:34PM (#28332074)
I can't tell you as this particular example was a colleague that I didn't know that well, but from talking to him I don't think it's what you think it is. These kinds of drugs aren't really fun party drugs. They're deep, introspective, intense things that aren't fun at all. And literature shows hallucinogens generally aren't addictive.
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