News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by Thaxll on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:12AM (#28313285)
Why is it a vaccine? Are there going to be vaccine for everything in the future?
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by Ensorceled on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:55AM (#28313741)
Why wouldn't there be a vaccine? In Ontario, we give children vaccines for diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio, influenza, smallpox (well, I got it as a child), rotavirus, IPD, measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, HPV, Hepatitis B, meningococcal disease.

Ticks carrying Lyme disease are exploding in Ontario, probably because of climate change. It makes sense to get this into the rotation as soon as possible.

After COVID, we suddenly have everybody is acting like vaccines are something weird, odd, new and scary.

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by detaro on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:57AM (#28313758)
anthrax is a standard vaccination, really? that one seems kind of surprising.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by Ensorceled on Thursday August 26, 2021 @08:00AM (#28313793)
Oops. Started listing all vaccines and then took the response in a different direction. Deleted Anthrax.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by nexuist on Thursday August 26, 2021 @12:14PM (#28316875)
For the record, there is an anthrax vaccine at least in the US, but it is reserved for service members and politicians due to the potential for side effects. I believe we have a stockpile of a few million shots in the event of an outbreak, but that stuff is guarded by national security confidentiality so there's no way to know how prepared we really are.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by Ensorceled on Thursday August 26, 2021 @12:43PM (#28317283)
Yep. Active duty service in Canada get a shit load as well, all the stuff they already should have got as kids and at least Yellow Fever, Typhoid and, I think, Hep A.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by CountDrewku on Thursday August 26, 2021 @09:10AM (#28314439)
>Ticks carrying Lyme disease are exploding in Ontario, probably because of climate change.

Do you have proof of this?

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by Ensorceled on Thursday August 26, 2021 @09:16AM (#28314505)
Which part do want proof of?

Google "ticks in ontario increasing" for literally dozens of references.

The "probably climate change" is supposition, hence the "probably" disclaimer, but a lot of those references above blame "milder winters" or climate change directly.

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by CountDrewku on Thursday August 26, 2021 @10:07AM (#28315148)
>The "probably climate change" is supposition, hence the "probably"

Then maybe just leave it out next time. I'm tired of people claiming climate change is responsible with no data to back it up for every natural event. That's no better than someone claiming global warming doesn't exist because they have a cold week of snow.

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by Ensorceled on Thursday August 26, 2021 @10:12AM (#28315213)
> Then maybe just leave it out next time.

No, I won't, because it is probably climate change.

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by CountDrewku on Thursday August 26, 2021 @03:56PM (#28319795)
Weird you still have no data showing that so me saying it probably ISN'T climate change hold every bit as much truth as you writing it.

So sure leave it in, just know you're at the same level as a climate change denier.

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by jannyfer on Thursday August 26, 2021 @11:13AM (#28315991)
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by CountDrewku on Thursday August 26, 2021 @04:00PM (#28319851)
The discussion does not involve you, so kindy butt out. I asked the OP a question not you.

Burden of proof is on the commenter. They did not provide proof. The burden is not on me to Google anything when someone else spouts a claim.

Your first article is literally just a guy saying it has changed with nothing to back it up.

From the second study which I'm guessing you haven't even read-

"Climate and other environmental changes are expected to increase the risk of ticks and TBDs in a number of ways."

"Prolonged extremes values of temperature (high or low), low humidity and intense rainfall could adversely affect tick development by reducing their activity and increasing their mortality rateFootnote 5. These changes in temperature are expected to have less of an effect on ticks than on mosquitoes because of the tick’s ability to find refuge in their woodland habitats"

"It is important to note, however, that the relationship between tick-borne diseases and climate is not linear."

Notice the key words EXPECTED and ANTICIPATED.

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by meibo on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:14AM (#28313302)
Vaccines are a very good way to prevent serious disease and may make it possible to eradicate diseases.

The best medical treatment is the one you never have to do.

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by tboyd47 on Thursday August 26, 2021 @11:18AM (#28316045)
A vaccine is a medical treatment.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by mschuster91 on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:20AM (#28313366)
> Are there going to be vaccine for everything in the future?

For a lot of stuff, the answer is probably yes, mRNA based vaccines are a revolutionary game changer - their quick turnaround time means you can actually tailor them to a specific cancer or pathogen the patient has and use the patient's own immune system to fight against the disease. Another advantage of mRNA is that manufacture doesn't depend on chicken eggs which take about six months to produce, are challenging to keep sterile enough and have issues for people with allergies (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/27/health/chicken-egg-flu-va...).

However, some viruses like HIV or Influenza mutate so much that it was hard to make effective viruses, we will have to wait and see what the future brings there.

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by bregma on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:19AM (#28313353)
A vaccine is an excellent way to prevent an infectious disease. Borelliosis is an infectious disease. Infectious diseases cause human suffering. Vaccinating against as many infectious diseases as possible will reduce a great deal of human suffering.

I guess the real question is why would you not want to reduce human suffering?

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by mantas on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:23AM (#28313392)
Because Lyme disease is hard to catch early. And long-lasting Lyme is damn hard to treat with lots of side effects.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by cinntaile on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:13AM (#28313301)
Lets hope so, then we can prevent instead of treat :)
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by triceratops on Thursday August 26, 2021 @08:51AM (#28314274)
> Are there going to be vaccine for everything in the future?

We should be so lucky!

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by shusaku on Thursday August 26, 2021 @10:01AM (#28315060)
It’s because the human immune system is superb at fighting off disease, so it turns out it’s easier to just prime it than to create our own way to kill viruses.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by Tycho on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:29AM (#28313447)
I think thanks to Covid booster shots they realise they can pivot to a Vaccine-as-a-Service model and create all sorts of recurring revenue streams.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by cinntaile on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:57PM (#28322593)
Not really. They have been working on this Lyme disease vaccine since 2017.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by tboyd47 on Thursday August 26, 2021 @09:51AM (#28314920)
Vaccines are for healthy people, so it's a larger market.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by exhilaration on Thursday August 26, 2021 @10:02AM (#28315077)
Imagine a vaccine against various cancers!
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by blackbear_ on Thursday August 26, 2021 @10:40AM (#28315547)
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by astura on Thursday August 26, 2021 @11:36AM (#28316267)
No need to imagine, HPV infection causes cervical, vulva, vagina, penis, anus, and oropharynx cancer and we have a vaccine for HPV (that is effective against the majority of the strains of HPV that cause cancer)! According to the CDC "almost all cervical cancer can be prevented by HPV vaccination."
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by M2Ys4U on Thursday August 26, 2021 @10:20AM (#28315309)
Cancer is exactly why we vaccinate against HPV, as it's a huge cause of cervical cancer.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by astura on Thursday August 26, 2021 @11:41AM (#28316352)
HPV also causes vulva, vagina, penis, anus, and oropharynx cancers as well.

https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/hpv/basic_info/cancers.htm

>In general, HPV is thought to be responsible for more than 90% of anal and cervical cancers, about 70% of vaginal and vulvar cancers, and 60% of penile cancers. Cancers in the back of the throat (oropharynx) traditionally have been caused by tobacco and alcohol, but recent studies1 2 3 show that about 60% to 70% of cancers of the oropharynx may be linked to HPV. Many of these may be caused by a combination of tobacco, alcohol, and HPV.

[dead]
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by mantas on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:25AM (#28313411)
Lyme is one of those disease where fear is valid to say the least.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by foolinaround on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:30AM (#28313461)
Should we have a vaccine for addictions? alcoholism? drug use? eating?

Eg: Give it early in people's lives, that the first time they drink even a little alcohol, it should produce such (non life threatening) symptoms - terrible taste, throw up etc, they would not touch it again, and therefore won't be addicted?

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by twooster on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:53AM (#28313709)
It's been done: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disulfiram

Not as a vaccine, but as a drug.

Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by turbinerneiter on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:37AM (#28313534)
I had all those symptoms when I drank my first beer and still learned to love it. You can overcome everything if you really want to.
Re:Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme diseas... by foolinaround on Thursday August 26, 2021 @11:53AM (#28316544)
well, its not a strong enough signal then...