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Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by inglor_cz on Monday August 23, 2021 @03:59PM (#28281147)
On a related note: interestingly, humans can develop immunity to ticks. Which means that if a tick bites them, it dies.

https://www.caryinstitute.org/news-insights/media-coverage/h...

Utterly fascinating. Our bodies are so much more complex than I could have imagined.

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by JulianMorrison on Monday August 23, 2021 @07:25PM (#28283353)
Does that make us a poisonous mammal species? Us and the platypi...
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by peanut_worm on Monday August 23, 2021 @07:35PM (#28283417)
We would be poisonous but platypi are venomous.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by pwdisswordfish0 on Monday August 23, 2021 @08:05PM (#28283637)
Shouldn’t it be platypodes?
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by Arnavion on Monday August 23, 2021 @08:10PM (#28283672)
Yes, Greek root so it ought to be platypodes, but everyone just says platypi. Similar situation as octopus - Greek root, should be octopodes, everyone just says octopuses. What everyone says defines the language, so platypi and octopuses it is.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by bradrn on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:04PM (#28284013)
Australian here; I’ve never heard anyone say ‘platypi’. It’s always ‘platypuses’. On the other hand, the plural of ‘octopus’ can be either ‘octopuses’ or ‘octopi’.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by richardw on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:44PM (#28284253)
I’ve long wanted it to be octopi but my iPhone and most sources say no. Out of the dictionaries, only Oxford English seems to include but says based on a misunderstanding. Some detail on history here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus under pluralisation

Interestingly:

> Historically, the first plural to commonly appear in English language sources, in the early 19th century, is the latinate form "octopi"

That’s quite late and interesting the “wrong” one was first.

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by TheSpiceIsLife on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @01:24AM (#28285384)
Tasmanian here.

It’s only platypuses if you see more than one at a time, and that’s pretty much never gonna happen ;)

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by bradrn on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:34AM (#28287413)
Alas, I live in Sydney and have never even seen one in the wild. Hopefully someday I’ll get the opportunity to go where they live.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by Arnavion on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:15PM (#28284427)
Now that you mention it, I'm not sure if I've heard platypi or platypuses more.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by jacobolus on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @04:51AM (#28286410)
You have undoubtedly heard platypuses more often.

I have never seen nor heard anyone write or say “platypi” before now. Some web sleuthing suggests that platypuses is somewhere between 20 and 100 times more common in English.

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by Arnavion on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @01:08PM (#28291798)
Your web sleuthing has an American bias. I'm from an English-speaking country but I'm not American.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by jacobolus on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @01:33PM (#28292193)
Are you from the 1830s? https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=platypi%2C+pla...

Platypuses don’t live in North America. Most of the older sources that Google n-gram is pulling from for the above chart are British or Australian.

A substantial proportion of the recent uses of platypi are grammar guides telling people that it should always be spelled platypuses.

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by the_af on Monday August 23, 2021 @08:51PM (#28283935)
Not everyone -- enough people write "octopi", especially when trying to sound literate, which is irritating. As is "viri" or "virii".
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by samhopewell on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @02:38AM (#28285760)
If I’m going to be wrong I’ll always go with Octopera.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by mellavora on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @04:02AM (#28286147)
Fun fact: the plural of applepus is apple pie!

with vanilla ice cream

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by austinjp on Monday August 23, 2021 @08:49PM (#28283917)
Who's saying octopuses instead of octopi? It might wrong, but it's succinct wrong.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by quietbritishjim on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @02:22AM (#28285684)
You're missing a word, but it seems like you're saying octopuses is wrong. But it's right, and not just because a spot informal weird had been accepted: it's technically correct. As sibling comments have said, the original plural would be octopodes because it's from the Greek, not octopi because it's not from Latin, but English doesn't normal take Greek plurals.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by the_af on Monday August 23, 2021 @08:53PM (#28283948)
Apparently the majority of English speakers say octopuses (which is my preference as well, but I'm not a native speaker).

By the way, how do you pronounce octopi? Is it "octo-pee" or "octo-pie"?

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by Arnavion on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:12PM (#28284418)
pie
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by tagh on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:06PM (#28284384)
Platypodes is more correct than platypi, but I think that English rules apply once a word is a part of the English language (I don't know who decides that). So it should be platypusses.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by whoomp12342 on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @10:57AM (#28289675)
this is not a great idea. Even though you might get immunity to ticks, you can still get lime disease.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by mv4 on Monday August 23, 2021 @04:23PM (#28281414)
ticks' bodies are pretty amazing to:

https://www.cdc.gov/ticks/alpha-gal/index.html

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by dwighttk on Monday August 23, 2021 @06:33PM (#28282884)
Instead of a Lyme vaccine we should work on spreading this to everyone

(Or you know, we could do both.)

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by adrianN on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @06:07AM (#28286838)
Spread it to ticks' normal prey, deer and what ever else they normally feed on.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by leblancfg on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @10:43AM (#28289484)
I’d say humans’ success rate at modifying ecosystems to eliminate parasites is… a failure at best.

Life, uh, finds a way.

So I wouldn’t advocate for that approach.

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by adrianN on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @03:15PM (#28293513)
I know of one success story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculus_medinensis is almost gone
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by Kenji on Monday August 23, 2021 @05:29PM (#28282225)
That's interesting. I seem to kill small mosquitoes when they bite me. I've observed it multiple times. It lands, it bites and it becomes completely unresponsive. Because I was drunk at the time, I chalked it up to blood alcohol content which will yield quite a bit of alcohol if a mosquito drinks so-and-so many times its own body weight (I did some basic math) but since then it also happened when I was sober.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by Uberphallus on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @03:44AM (#28286059)
I had this happen to me. For most of my life, barely ever got bitten by mosquitos, and when they did, they usually died while feeding, on my skin.

From age 30 onwards, I suffer them as much as the next guy, not sure what could have changed since.

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by ProjectArcturis on Monday August 23, 2021 @06:41PM (#28282954)
Even if you were at 0.5% BAC (legal driving limit is 0.08%, and 0.5% would kill a lot of people), that's still about the alcohol percentage in NA beer. Unlikely to have any effect.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by throwawaylinux on Monday August 23, 2021 @07:22PM (#28283328)
Leaving aside the vast differences in physiology and effects of alcohol on humans vs mosquitoes, mosquitos can drink maybe 2x their body weight in blood. If you drunk 500 bottles of 0.5% a/v beer in 10 minutes it would likely have some effect.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by dragonwriter on Monday August 23, 2021 @07:43PM (#28283477)
> If you drunk 500 bottles of 0.5% a/v beer in 10 minutes it would likely have some effect.

If you drank the same amount of 0% ABV water in that time, you’d probably die of water intoxication, so I’m not sure any adverse effects of the alcohol would be noticeable.

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by throwawaylinux on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:00PM (#28283994)
I'm thinking exploded stomach.

Point is it could be a lot of alcohol for the mosquito.

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by xorcist on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @05:56AM (#28286792)
> If you drunk 500 bottles of 0.5% a/v beer in 10 minutes it would likely have some effect

No, the alcohol wouldn't. Unless you distilled all that beer and ingested the alcohol alone. The massive liquid intake would kill you though.

The liver doesn't store alcohol, so how many grams you ingest in total doesn't matter, only in what concentration. Keep in mind that alcohol is perfectly soluble in water too.

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by ThePadawan on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @01:41AM (#28285482)
I'm sorry for reading this as "north american" beer instead of "non-alcoholic" beer.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by actaeon169 on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:35PM (#28296772)
It's an easy mistake to make.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by loonster on Monday August 23, 2021 @07:23PM (#28283335)
A mosquito can drink 2-3x its body weight. It would not be the same as a NA beer. It would be more like getting a blood transfusion from a drunk.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by maxerickson on Monday August 23, 2021 @08:43PM (#28283884)
If it was a pint and the drunk was heroic, it'd be like having 3 or 4 drinks.

(~10 pints of blood in the donor, 1/10 of a lot of alcohol...)

Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by parsecs on Monday August 23, 2021 @06:25PM (#28282786)
That's very interesting as well. Could you expand a little on what you mean by them becoming completely unresponsive?
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by Kenji on Monday August 23, 2021 @08:43PM (#28283885)
Basically it remains "stuck" in position and completely stops moving, even if I wait 5 minutes. Poking it causes no reaction. I can just pick it up and put it away. It is either dead or it passed out.
Re:Mosquito saliva alone has profound effects on the human i... by nrdvana on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @03:39AM (#28286032)
I’ve never heard anyone have that experience before. Maybe you should share this phenomenon with some relevant scientists?