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Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by simonw on Monday August 23, 2021 @03:31PM (#28280823)
I care.

I'm vaccinated. I can still catch it - I'm much more unlikely to end up in hospital, but it's still an unpleasant illness to have, with a small chance of long-term complications that are not at all well understood.

And if I do catch it I can still spread it to others, who may not be vaccinated.

I very much care about not killing someone else by spreading Covid to them, even if they deliberately chose not to get the vaccine. I'm furious with them (and with the information sources they consumed that lead them to that decision) but I absolutely don't want to contribute to their suffering or death.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by FiberBundle on Monday August 23, 2021 @05:33PM (#28282270)
It's obviously perfectly fine for you to feel that way about Covid, but in my opinion the correct thing for you to do would be to isolate yourself and try to minimize the chance of being infected instead of wanting further damaging restrictions to be forced on other people (I don't mean relatively non-intrusive measures such as mask wearing, but any form of lockdowns).
Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by spookthesunset on Monday August 23, 2021 @07:40PM (#28283448)
Even masks. Because covid is here forever and people need to accept that and live with it.
Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by peder on Monday August 23, 2021 @03:55PM (#28281102)
>I can still catch it

Yes, you can still catch it regardless what we do with NPIs. Stop living in fear.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by spookthesunset on Monday August 23, 2021 @07:41PM (#28283460)
Judging by how many of my well thought out comments got downvoted… lots of people here are living in fear still.

It’s son intellectually dishonest to downvote people who express valid criticism. It’s pure tribalism… which is what is just about 40% for all our actions the last 1.6 years.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by mousepilot on Monday August 23, 2021 @07:56PM (#28283573)
I think the most economical way of thinking about it is that we're stuck with a percentage of refuseniks and have to deal with them continuing to spread covid.

I am of a certain population that is more succeptable, and I just accept that there are people who would welcome my death from covid if it would save them from the slightest inconvenience.

I admire you for making reasonable arguments, you have more patience than me by far.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by h3cate on Monday August 23, 2021 @04:03PM (#28281205)
I hate to be blunt but sometimes life is unpleasant, even more so now. Do you think that it's fair to demand people change their way of living because you don't want an unpleasant illness? I think it's unpleasant when people eat seafood (I don't like the smell) but I don't demand everybody stop eating seafood.
Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by simonw on Monday August 23, 2021 @07:04PM (#28283171)
"Do you think that it's fair to demand people change their way of living because you don't want an unpleasant illness?"

I think it's fair to demand that they change their way of living to prevent more deaths - 645,000 and counting just in the USA.

If we weren't living in a sea of unvaccinated people this conversation would be a lot easier.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by nytgop77 on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @03:56PM (#28294104)
Manners change over time. Maybe masks will join normal etiquette with other polite things, which benefits everyone around. (such as: closing your mouth when coughing, washing hands after going to the toilet, wearing at least shorts)
Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by umvi on Monday August 23, 2021 @04:48PM (#28281715)
I advise you don't go into forests to enjoy nature, there is a small chance you'll get bitten by a tick and contract chronic lyme disease which happened to my brother in law. It could happen to you too, there's a chance. Better not risk it.
Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by spookthesunset on Monday August 23, 2021 @04:04PM (#28281214)
You do you. Just don't force society to continue doing any of this, that's all I ask. It's time to move on.
Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by jstanley on Monday August 23, 2021 @04:37PM (#28281591)
Let me try and follow your logic here.

You say the vaccine doesn't stop you from catching or spreading the virus, it just stops you from getting as badly sick. If that's the case then why do you care whether others are vaccinated or not? If it doesn't change the chances of them passing it on to you, and just changes how sick they'll get, then surely it doesn't make any difference to you?

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by detaro on Monday August 23, 2021 @04:40PM (#28281626)
> If it doesn't change the chances of them passing it on to you

Where are they saying that?