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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by thehappypm on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:39AM (#28276456)
Because getting COVID becomes a problem for every person you come in contact with! Getting vaccinated protects you first, but also stops you from personally handing a disease to everyone you're in contact with. The people around you shouldn't be punished because you like Fox News.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by SergeAx on Monday August 23, 2021 @02:50PM (#28280284)
No, getting vaccinated is not stops anyone from transmitting disease, it is obvious. Virus gets to breathing system of vaccinated people same as for unvaccinated, and replicates there for 4-6 days. Then they either have a vaccine breakthrough, or vaccine-boosted immune system kicks in and defeats the virus in next 2-3 days. All this time the vaccinated host is as dangerous for others as unvaccinated.

I hope you didn't know it or didn't think it through, otherwise mention of Fox News seems to me a blatant hypocrisy. Either way it was an unnecessary ad hominem attack.

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by renaudg on Monday August 23, 2021 @02:56PM (#28280359)
> All this time the vaccinated host is as dangerous for others as unvaccinated.

This is categorically false, sorry : https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1429449468261322759

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by SergeAx on Monday August 23, 2021 @04:34PM (#28281540)
I really hope this will turn out to be true, but:

> Ct-values decreased throughout the first 3 days of illness.

Days of illness are those 3 days "when immune system kicks in and defeats the virus", as I wrote. When host is ill, it is obvious and things like masks and social distancing are being used. But not for those 4-6 days of asymptomatic virus replication, when most transmissions are taking part.

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by daddylongstroke on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @06:22PM (#28295721)
You're linking to a non-reviewed pre-print. But OK, from that same study: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9Zxoh5X0AMqYCI?format=jpg&name=...
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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by rootusrootus on Monday August 23, 2021 @01:14PM (#28278995)
They do reduce it, however, even in the case of breakthrough infections.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by SergeAx on Monday August 23, 2021 @02:57PM (#28280374)
I would love to see some statistical data on this topic. Anecdotal observation is that vaccinated people becoming more careless with masks and social distancing. See also Britain and Israel latest waves almost the same magnitude as January waves (but, of course, much less deadly).
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by c7DJTLrn on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:49AM (#28276616)
What has Fox News got to do with anything? Do you see this as a political issue?

What about people with immune dysfunction? Are you going to dismiss them as Fox News viewers too because aren't having the vaccine?

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by thehappypm on Monday August 23, 2021 @11:08AM (#28276955)
Yes, it's highly politicized.

Marjorie Taylor-Greene, a congresswoman from Georgia, is a huge rising conservative star in the style of Trump. She's downright anti-vaccine. "These vaccines are failing and do not reduce the spread of the virus and neither do masks".

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by c7DJTLrn on Monday August 23, 2021 @11:18AM (#28277144)
Well, that statement of hers is blatantly stupid, I think we can agree on that.

But please don't lump people like me concerned about infringement on rights and bodily autonomy with people who deny facts and cannot understand what a mitigation measure is.

And more importantly, please don't make vaccination a political issue. Because you will be dividing everyone over this much more dramatically.

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by thehappypm on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:11PM (#28278089)
I would love for vaccination to not be a political issue, it's just the sad truth. The vaccination rate is deeply coordinated with the Democratic voting rate.