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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by nojito on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:38AM (#28276443)
>By that i mean that we need more time to assess the long-term effects, something that many pro-vaccine people seem unwilling to accept. That is unfortunate.

We are way past the time frame for long-term effects to manifest themselves for a corona-like vaccine.

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by peakaboo on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:44AM (#28276530)
This is not true. There could be birth defects or lower iq in babies born from vaccinated mothers.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by seoaeu on Monday August 23, 2021 @11:22AM (#28277209)
Those could also be long term side effects of covid. A double digit percentage of people who catch the disease end up in the hospital soon after infection compared to fraction of a fraction of a percent of vaccine recipients in the time after they get the shot.

Your priors have to be absolutely outrageous if based on the currently available data you think the risks are even within an order of magnitude.

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by xdennis on Monday August 23, 2021 @01:18PM (#28279057)
> Those could also be long term side effects of covid.

Of course, but it's a lot worse when a cure causes issues. The point of medicine is to "first, do no harm".

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by seoaeu on Monday August 23, 2021 @01:43PM (#28279411)
It isn't that much worse when a cure causes issues. People endure terrible side effects from treatments to cure their cancer. Nearly every medicine I hear advertised has some risk of causing serious side effects, if not outright death
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by 34679 on Monday August 23, 2021 @01:53PM (#28279528)
3.2 per 100,000 is not "a double digit percentage".

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628...

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by seoaeu on Monday August 23, 2021 @02:02PM (#28279664)
A 0.0032% hospitalization rate doesn't pass the smell test. That's hundreds of times less than the reported fatality rate!
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by 34679 on Monday August 23, 2021 @03:22PM (#28280709)
Call Israel and tell them they got it wrong.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by seoaeu on Monday August 23, 2021 @04:28PM (#28281480)
Ok, you're clearly a troll. After all the reporting from the last year and a half, no one could seriously believe that the entire population of San Fransisco catching covid would result in fewer than 200 hospital admissions
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by detaro on Monday August 23, 2021 @05:00PM (#28281866)
a) that's the <60y number only

b) Isn't that "per 100,000 inhabitants", not "per 100,000 who catch the disease"?

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by acdha on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:50AM (#28276640)
There are an infinite number of things which could happen but there’s no mechanism or evidence making this likely. The vaccine doesn’t rewrite your DNA and it strengthens your normal immune response, which does none of those things.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by oblio on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:54AM (#28276699)
Pluuuuuusssss... we don't know the long term impact of Covid itself.

People who argue against vaccines don't seem to think enough about that aspect.

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by Izkata on Monday August 23, 2021 @01:11PM (#28278962)
Or maybe they're just arguing for the third group: people who already were infected and recovered.

No need to double up on the unknown risks of you already have immunity.

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by oblio on Monday August 23, 2021 @02:42PM (#28280180)
Based on our current information, that's at best 33% of the population. Realistically in most countries it's about 15-20%.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by cglace on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:19PM (#28278204)
I personally know 2 women who had covid, were hospitalized, had emergency c sections and then died. That is a known risk. Your risk is hypothetical.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by wombatpm on Monday August 23, 2021 @11:07AM (#28276924)
Or in unvaccinated mothers exposed to COVID-19.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by lern_too_spel on Monday August 23, 2021 @11:10AM (#28276983)
Birth defects would have been observed already if they were a side effect of the vaccine.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by sharken on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:50AM (#28276629)
Do you have a credible source for that claim ?