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Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by ceejayoz on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:11AM (#28275980)
I can't work in certain jobs without a security clearance.

The government is not forcing me to get a security clearance.

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by hcurtiss on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:54AM (#28276696)
I’m pro vaccine, but requiring I take a test or prove my trustworthiness strike me as fundamentally different than requiring I inject something in my body.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by nsxwolf on Monday August 23, 2021 @05:00PM (#28281862)
They can't legally force you, so they're using other means to exert as much pressure as possible. Doesn't feel any better to a lot of people to know they weren't technically forced.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by ibejoeb on Monday August 23, 2021 @11:07AM (#28276929)
In this scenario, you're seeking a job for which a clearance is a prerequisite.

In this world, people with jobs are being fired for not getting vaccinated. It's not a small cohort either; it's the government and giant corporate entities.

There are a few notable exceptions, though, of employers that are not mandating vaccination. Pfizer, for one. The White House, for another. When the pharma that makes the thing, and the POTUS, who is making vaccination priority #1, don't require it, that is some laughably awful PR.

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by ceejayoz on Monday August 23, 2021 @11:16AM (#28277101)
Pfizer is mandating it. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/04/vaccine-mandate-pfizer-will-...

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/west-wing-playbook/2021... says the White House has as well.

> The White House didn’t even establish a vaccine mandate for its own staffers until last month, despite the shot being available to them early in the year.

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by ibejoeb on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @10:11PM (#28309772)
The headline even says "or undergo weekly testing"
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by gfodor on Monday August 23, 2021 @02:07PM (#28279735)
If the government said that unvaccinated individuals were not allowed to purchase food, would you consider that OK, because they're not forcing you to stop eating?
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by peteradio on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:47AM (#28276581)
Vanishingly small percentages of jobs require security clearance.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by ceejayoz on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:51AM (#28276653)
Vanishingly small percentages of freedoms require vaccination.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by nsxwolf on Monday August 23, 2021 @05:03PM (#28281891)
For me to agree with "vanishingly small", I should rarely encounter a vaccination requirement in my day to day life. The wishlist for places and activities that will require verification is so large I will be encountering them multiple times a day, for the rest of my life.
Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by renaudg on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @01:02PM (#28291691)
Yes, and that's perfectly fine because 1. you've been accepting that for other vaccines already and 2. there is no cost or significant risk to you from getting vaccinated, mostly just massive benefits. It's a win-win situation. Society is asking you to take 1 hour of your time to save your own life.

The fact that some people don't recognize that gift as what it is because they've been misinformed is irrelevant because, well, whatever they believe is simply not true.

Re:FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine by nsxwolf on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @04:41PM (#28294731)
No, not really. I've lived in states where vaccines were required to enter grade school, but there were religious and conscience exemptions. And flu shots are often required in health care. That status quo was far less invasive than what is being proposed here. I have never had to prove vaccination status to just do ordinary things in my life before.