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Re:Why God Hates German Words by KennethMyers on Saturday July 30, 2011 @04:51PM (#2826723)
Post author here.

You're right about "smart." There are other minor inaccuracies that other people pointed out. The origin of "fuck" isn't clear. Were the anglo-saxons actually enslaved? (I'd say yes. Serfdom/slavery, what's the differece?) I didn't write this thing like a researcher. I wrote it like a daytime applied linguist with a secret passion for his crazy-ass blog. I'll do a rigorous one if people actually want that.

Re:Why God Hates German Words by sophacles on Saturday July 30, 2011 @05:03PM (#2826755)
I actually want that... but don't do extra work because I ask nicely -- I will gladly pay for an (e)book on this topic, if it was written at a "smart layman"'s level. I think its fascinating, but not career fascinating, if you know what I mean. I just want to read about these things and maybe be able to impress strangers with random facts that were well researched by some person who knows what he's talking about.
Re:Why God Hates German Words by icebraining on Sunday July 31, 2011 @09:06AM (#2828246)
"Your Mother's Tongue: Book of European Invective" is an interesting book about the same subject.
Re:Why God Hates German Words by Terretta on Sunday July 31, 2011 @12:38PM (#2828725)
I was entertained by the "individual" vs. "man" phrase:

the sort of guy

These sound like nice simple Anglo Saxon words, but:

"sort" – 1200–50; (noun) Middle English < Middle French sorte

"guy" – 1300–50; Middle English gye < Old French guie, a guide, derivative of guier to guide

You played with these words in several parts of the post, which made it all the more entertaining a read.

Re:Why God Hates German Words by zwp on Saturday July 30, 2011 @05:07PM (#2826769)
Hello!

I like the hypothesis, I'm sure there must be some research on this.

There is a writing style guide written by a well-known English author, Victorian era, that suggests using saxon over romance words for clarity. I feel this is valid (also more concise, more punchy (more consonants)). I thought it was Kipling but perhaps not... somebody help me out?

Re:Why God Hates German Words by conanite on Saturday July 30, 2011 @05:18PM (#2826804)
You might be thinking of George Orwell, "politics and the english language" (a bit after the victorian era)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_and_the_English_Langua...

Rule 5 states: Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.

Re:Why God Hates German Words by zwp on Saturday July 30, 2011 @05:24PM (#2826827)
Yes! Thank you. Exactly (was later than I thought).

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

"Bad writers, and especially scientific, political, and sociological writers, are nearly always haunted by the notion that Latin or Greek words are grander than Saxon ones..."

Re:Why God Hates German Words by bdr on Saturday July 30, 2011 @05:12PM (#2826786)
Was it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barnes ?

"For example, the word "photograph" (from Greek light+writing) would become "sun-print" (from Saxon). Other terms include "wortlore" (botany), "welkinfire" (meteor) and "nipperlings" (forceps)."

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_linguistic_purism

Re:Why God Hates German Words by bergie on Sunday July 31, 2011 @12:00AM (#2827579)
In Finland there is a government agency called Kielitoimisto ("Language bureau"), which has as its mission to keep the language pure from foreign influences. They've recently tuned it down, but I remember a lot of proposals from them in the 90s similar to the ones you listed
Re:Why God Hates German Words by jacques_chester on Sunday July 31, 2011 @05:10AM (#2827955)
Comparably, the French have L'Académie Française. Stuffed to the roof with curmudgeons who reject all foreign influences -- even from other Francophonic countries.

There's cases where Swiss French (counting), Quebecois French (conjugation of many verbs) etc is more logical or more consistent, but the changes are rejected as foreign by the Académie.

Re:Why God Hates German Words by Terretta on Sunday July 31, 2011 @12:29PM (#2828697)
le weekend, le sandwich, un parking, un smoking ...
Re:Why God Hates German Words by jacques_chester on Sunday July 31, 2011 @11:51PM (#2830632)
Yes, loanwords too.
Re:Why God Hates German Words by willyt on Sunday July 31, 2011 @05:37AM (#2827992)
In France the equivalent is the Académie française. So in French a computer is an Ordinateur, whereas in a lot of other languages it's derived from the English word. A few random examples: German: Computer. Spanish: Computadora. Scots Gaelic: Coimpiutair.

Edit: Oops Jacques beat me too it.

Re:Why God Hates German Words by icebraining on Sunday July 31, 2011 @09:10AM (#2828253)
Actually, in European Spanish, "Ordenador" is way more common than "Computadora" (as an example, the former has 5 million results on Google for .es sites, while the latter has only just over 270k).
Re:Why God Hates German Words by cema on Sunday July 31, 2011 @01:21AM (#2827687)
Well, modern Hebrew is still like that, to a large extent.