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Re:Highly Vaccinated Israel Is Seeing a Dramatic Surge in Ne... by chaostheory on Saturday August 21, 2021 @07:11PM (#28261396)
I'm pro-vaccination, but there's no sugar coating the fact that %60 of hospitalizations are of previously vaccinated people.

I don't know much about mRNA vaccines, but do mRNA vaccines induce sterilizing immunity?

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Re:Highly Vaccinated Israel Is Seeing a Dramatic Surge in Ne... by est31 on Saturday August 21, 2021 @07:50PM (#28261670)
It's a statistical effect called Simpson's Paradox. The 60% is nothing to be worried about.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-...

https://twitter.com/jsm2334/status/1427465566210695178

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Re:Highly Vaccinated Israel Is Seeing a Dramatic Surge in Ne... by charbonneau on Saturday August 21, 2021 @08:07PM (#28261754)
The Simpson's Paradox seems to refer to something else:

https://twitter.com/_MiguelHernan/status/1428014414666420230

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Re:Highly Vaccinated Israel Is Seeing a Dramatic Surge in Ne... by est31 on Saturday August 21, 2021 @08:36PM (#28261906)
If you go by what Simpson wrote, then maybe it is a different paradox. If you go by what most people are being taught the Simpson's paradox is, then no. Ultimately it's besides the point. The conflict is resolved by better statistics.
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Re:Highly Vaccinated Israel Is Seeing a Dramatic Surge in Ne... by vitaflo on Saturday August 21, 2021 @08:21PM (#28261826)
If 100% of people were immunized then 100% of hospitalizations would be vaccinated people. This doesn’t mean vaccines aren’t effective.
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Re:Highly Vaccinated Israel Is Seeing a Dramatic Surge in Ne... by chaostheory on Sunday August 22, 2021 @04:05PM (#28269072)
I’m not saying all vaccines are ineffective. I’m wondering if mRNA vaccines are effective long term since they don’t produce sterilizing immunity.
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Re:Highly Vaccinated Israel Is Seeing a Dramatic Surge in Ne... by ssss11 on Saturday August 21, 2021 @07:35PM (#28261574)
Not sure what “sterilising immunity” is but the vaccines appear to reduce likelihood you will get Covid (not completely make you immune). If you then get it you are much less likely to end up in ICU or die, you may go to hospital though.
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