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Re:The past, present and future of image formats by zokier on Thursday August 19, 2021 @06:29AM (#28232209)
> HEIC, based on H.265 video, means it's encumbered with patents (moreso then anything before it). So it has no support outside of Apple.

Notably Canon and Sony support HEIC natively in their cameras. It makes probably lot of sense to them, as they need h265 encoders anyways for video capture, so they get HEIC pretty much for free.

Also Android supports HEIC these days.

Together with Apple also supporting HEIC, it pretty much guarantees that HEIC is here to stay.

Meanwhile I haven't heard any camera manufacturer to support either AVIF or JPEG-XL. Even Android doesn't support AVIF yet. So outside web bubble, it's AVIF that has little to no support.

Re:The past, present and future of image formats by Youden on Thursday August 19, 2021 @07:01AM (#28232371)
> Also Android supports HEIC these days.

The situation isn't quite so simple. Android devices are only required to support HEIC if they also support HEVC decoding [0]. Interestingly, this seems to be less strict than the Android 10 CDD [1].

[0]: https://source.android.com/compatibility/11/android-11-cdd#5...

[1]: https://source.android.com/compatibility/10/android-10-cdd#5...

Re:The past, present and future of image formats by ksec on Thursday August 19, 2021 @11:37AM (#28235202)
>So outside web bubble

Yes. A lot of the conversation talk about image and video as if Web is the only platform. Just like how AV1 is suppose to be everything because of Youtube while completely neglecting the rest of the video industry from Broadcasting to Movies etc.

Re:The past, present and future of image formats by lonjil on Saturday August 21, 2021 @06:59AM (#28255934)
JPEG XL is really new, so it would be a lot more surprising if it did have support anywhere yet. Hell, AVIF is pretty new too.