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Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by ldjkfkdsjnv on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @12:14PM (#28223357)
You shouldnt have to feel bad for calling people low IQ. I work at FAANG and feel the exact same way. Completely underwhelmed by the talent.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by fsvavsd on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @01:25PM (#28224443)
How does OP knows that they are low IQ? That seems insulting to me. It is one thing to say they lack right skills or are unmotivated to work hard. But saying someone is low IQ without doing IQ test is same as calling a fat person lacks discipline to eat healthy.

Or reading your or OP's comments and assuming that you have social and possibly serious mental health issues. Not very nice, right?

Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by certeoun on Thursday August 19, 2021 @10:59AM (#28234677)
Untreated ADHD, depression etc. might also contribute to low performance. Beyond that, it is bold to claim "low IQ" without even demonstrating it. I don't think many people are interested in learning and thinking deeply regardless of intellect.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by rejectedandsad on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @01:13PM (#28224264)
I work at the FAANG considered the “dumbest” - do you think people like me have any hope for the future?
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by quickthrower2 on Thursday August 19, 2021 @02:18AM (#28230920)
There is no linear ordering on workers! You might be dumb at algorithms but great at stakeholder management and average at coding. Takes all sorts of strengths to make a good team.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by s-lambert on Thursday August 19, 2021 @04:13AM (#28231532)
You should feel hopeless, you're doomed to having a steady career where you are paid well.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by rejectedandsad on Thursday August 19, 2021 @06:43AM (#28232275)
Except I’m not - I make the same as a new grad at other companies.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by liveoneggs on Thursday August 19, 2021 @09:40AM (#28233693)
go bus tables or work a cash register and then complain about your paycheck
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by sircastor on Thursday August 19, 2021 @01:19AM (#28230602)
I have no idea which FAANG is considered “the dumbest”…
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by TechBro8615 on Thursday August 19, 2021 @10:10AM (#28234036)
Any thread with FAANG in the title always brings out the weirdest insecurities. Maybe it's because emotionally stable people don't optimize their life and identity around which megacorp buys their time from them.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by WrtCdEvrydy on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @12:21PM (#28223470)
"If most companies optimize for finding the best talent and the people with the best talent change companies often then logically only the people joining a company have the best talent" - Average people are average and most people are average.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by de_keyboard on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @12:20PM (#28223449)
You are confusing IQ and intelligence. It would have been better to say "my co-workers do not seem to be highly intelligent".
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by ldjkfkdsjnv on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @12:27PM (#28223545)
I'm tired of the semantics, my co workers are dumb. They passed these interviews by memorizing the answers to questions, and they cant come up with useful software architecture. Everything they code is a one off solution to a one off problem.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by jasondigitized on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @12:38PM (#28223691)
Are they better with people than you are? Does that make you dumb as well? If you were “smart” you would have figured out how to work with your leadership team to optimize a solution for all parties. But you don’t know how to, and therefore from my perspective, could also be considered “dumb”.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by askafriend on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @01:58PM (#28224825)
Honestly some people are dumb and it’s as simple as that. No need to bend backwards to make excuses for them.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by rualca on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @03:11PM (#28225817)
This debate isn't really about people being dumb inasmuch as it's about someone accusing every single person around him of being dumb.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by proofbygazing on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @01:16PM (#28224313)
This comment feels like cope.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by raydev on Thursday August 19, 2021 @04:21AM (#28231579)
And this one feels like cope.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by amf12 on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @12:43PM (#28223764)
> Everything they code is a one off solution to a one off problem.

To me, this is more indicative of the company culture than your coworkers' IQ.

Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by ldjkfkdsjnv on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @01:29PM (#28224501)
Not at all. They are not capable of building useful abstract components.
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by certeoun on Thursday August 19, 2021 @09:06AM (#28233340)
In school, I noticed that many people don't learn deeply. They get good grades even with a shallow understanding of the material.

They learn by heart and are not interested in why something works. (For example, what a Fourier transform essentially does. A Fourier transform is essentially projecting a target function to the sinusoidal bases. That is what the dot product implies.) I don't think this is necessarily related to intellect. I think it is somewhat related to laziness and lack of interest or curiosity.

They use a bunch of formulas and code snippets and glue it together until it somehow works without understanding it.

I am a big believer in learning deeply by focusing on the fundamentals. Here's what I previously wrote about that very topic:

> Instead of APIs, learn the fundamental algorithms that those APIs provide. Instead of OpenGL, learn rendering algorithms (raserization, Bresenham etc.). The same applies for other frameworks such as Vue.js. Learn how to write a virtual DOM yourself. Learn how JS operates under the hood. Learn how to implement a hash table (std::unordered_map) and a dynamic array (std::vector); understand why you cannot simply delete a bucket when using the open addressing scheme. Learn C and memory management, since many other programming languages are influenced by C. Implement the algorithms in C if you are proficient enough in it (gives you a better understanding).

Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by rejectedandsad on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @01:43PM (#28224647)
What should I do, if I have a low IQ?
Re:Ask HN: I joined a FAANG and it is awful by smsm42 on Thursday August 19, 2021 @02:56AM (#28231134)
Find work that speaks to your strengths, whatever they are. Some people aren't very smart but good at communications, or nice, or creative, or attentive, or can do boring tasks over and over without getting bored, or could sell snow to Norwegians in winter - there is a myriad of qualities beyond intellect, and one has to be truly exceptionally unlucky to not be good at even one (usually there are a few). The trick is finding what you're good at, and what you like to do, and if you're lucky there's intersection between the two, and if you're lucky, there's somebody somewhere willing to pay for it.