Re:Convert Apple NeuralHash model for CSAM Detection to ONNX
by helen___keller on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @10:00AM
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> For those wondering why you can't just delete these files
Maybe I'm missing context, what files are you referring to?
Re:Convert Apple NeuralHash model for CSAM Detection to ONNX
by tvirosi on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @10:22AM
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Probably the model weight files
Re:Convert Apple NeuralHash model for CSAM Detection to ONNX
by mlindner on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @10:29AM
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Yes, if the model files are deleted then the software attempting to scan files would obviously have to error out.
Re:Convert Apple NeuralHash model for CSAM Detection to ONNX
by easton on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @10:10AM
(#28221101)
On Apple Silicon Macs this isn’t true, as files are encrypted on disk with “data protection” (same thing as on iOS). You can enable FileVault but it’s just extra.
Also I’ve edited /etc without disabling FileVault, is it just /System which is protected this way?
Re:Convert Apple NeuralHash model for CSAM Detection to ONNX
by mlindner on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @10:15AM
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System is separate I believe. Every single file is cryptographically signed.
Re:Convert Apple NeuralHash model for CSAM Detection to ONNX
by djrogers on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @10:03AM
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Or 3. Disable iCloud Photo Library and have no scanning done at all.
Re:Convert Apple NeuralHash model for CSAM Detection to ONNX
by mlindner on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @10:15AM
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For now. A simple change to hook IOImage load in a future update and it will be.
Re:Convert Apple NeuralHash model for CSAM Detection to ONNX
by gjsman-1000 on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @12:37PM
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Except that everything is always like this. A simple change to location services on your phone to be a 24/7 reporting system. A simple change to your password manager to send all the passwords in plaintext somewhere.
Re:Convert Apple NeuralHash model for CSAM Detection to ONNX
by joshstrange on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @12:48PM
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This is something I don't see enough. Like I'm not terribly fond of these changes but people who are like "Well that's it, I'm leaving iOS" just strike me as either lying or they don't understand anything about technology. Like if you've used iCloud /anything/ then Apple /could/ already be scanning it or handing it over the FBI/etc. Similarly iOS (and Android unless built from source) is closed source and you already have no idea whats running on it in reality. So knowing all of that, on-device scanning is where you draw the line? That's just odd. Every "slippery slope" argument used for this photo scanning should have disqualified /every/ iPhone/Stock-Android phone already for these people. The fact these hashes and/or some of this code has been in iOS since 14.3 (not activated) already proves these people are full of it since no one noticed or said anything until it was announced (or a day before when the twitter thread went out).
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/395508/can-i-mount...
So in the end we'll be left with a choice.
1. Allow Apple to scan your files.
2. Disable any kind of encryption letting anyone who steals your laptop access all your files.