So true.

I lived through most of the Vietnam War (live on the 6 o'clock news) and the fall. The lessons have been obvious to anyone who CHOOSES to pay attention. But the lessons aren't ones that politicians drunk with power and venom want to hear.

A friend of a friend served in the Soviet Army in Afghanistan. It left him deeply traumatized, and he would not talk about his experiences. Likewise a former boss who was with the airborne in Vietnam. He too would not talk about his experiences. But that lucky duck Dick Cheney, he had "other priorities".

I remember the Vietnam War also. A temporary room mate in college had just got back from Vietnam, and the things he witnessed really left him traumatized.

Yes and what is worse is China will get access to the natural resources at a fraction of what US spent in Afghanistan all these years. More discussion in this podcast episode: https://jingle.fm/p/tabadlabs-dragon-road-1570336991/s01-e08...

So glad to see both Taibbi and Greenwald on the front page of HN.

I don't come to HN for politics, but if there is political stuff posted, I like to see independent journalism.

This one seems genuinely bipartisan/non-partisan.

Withdrawal from Afghanistan seems to have been the thing you wanted your opponent to take the blame for, whichever side you’re on. Spending on it all the while.